POLL: Determine Lincoln's fate in 2009

baccaruda · February 7, 2003 5:18AM

what should we do with Mr. Lincoln in 2009 on his 200th birthday anniversary?

KlectorKid · February 7, 2003 5:27AM

Give Abe the boot along with all the other dead presidents.

airplanenut · February 7, 2003 5:28AM

They'll finally get rid of the cent... but let him be on for 100 years

keithdagen · February 7, 2003 5:28AM

Give Jefferson the boot first, just to spite the idiots from Virginia.

baccaruda · February 7, 2003 5:29AM

hey, i never said anything about voting tommy off.

anoldgoat · February 7, 2003 5:34AM

Where would this country/these countries be without him. More than any other figure adorning a coin he deserves it the most. The cent will eventually be gone anyway but until then keep him on it.
I say one year reverse change then back to normal unless there is a great design for the reverse.

keithdagen · February 7, 2003 5:44AM

hey, i never said anything about voting tommy off.

No, but I did.

Let's face it, do we need the good Senators and Congressman of Virginia to tell us what is on our NATIONAL coinage?

baccaruda · February 7, 2003 5:46AM

i agree with you actually. i've always liked the jefferson design but no one should think they control any U.S. coinage. i'm all for change (no pun intended).

baccaruda · February 7, 2003 5:51AM

how about a copper dollar commemorative with a cent design (like they did with the buffalo) as a final hurrah for abe in 2009?

Spinynorman · February 7, 2003 5:51AM

I've been wanting a 2009-S VDB wheat cent for quite a while. I don't care that much what they do with them afterwards, though.

BiggAndyy · February 7, 2003 5:53AM

Commemorative 2009 Centennial Cent Reverse then out the cent goes forever!!!

LanLord · February 7, 2003 5:54AM

My real answer would be a 1 year commemorative and then replace the design or remove the cent altogether. But that wasn't there so I said one year commem and return to normal.

baccaruda · February 7, 2003 5:58AM

i've changed the rules just for you, lanlord.

Leftcoast · February 7, 2003 6:18AM

The cent will disappear when people will buy a $300 TV as quick as they buy one for $299.99. And when the IRS and banks agree to lop everything off to the nearest nickle.

jeffnpcb · February 7, 2003 6:20AM

As long as they have a tax system with a less than 1% total, the cent will always be around. The stinking gas pumps and income tax systems proves that point! I would push for a flat tax system regardless of the percentage as I'm always looking for varieties in one cent coins! They appear to be the most abundent!

Leftcoast · February 7, 2003 6:21AM

But YOU would like that wouldn't you baccaruda

baccaruda · February 7, 2003 6:26AM

like to lose the cent completely? i don't know, i'm torn. shoot the thing's been around since our nation's birth just about, i think it's at least time to change it.

problem is i don't think they'll change it. if there's gonna be a change it will be to get rid of it.

maddox · February 7, 2003 6:31AM

How about we just rid ourselves of the penny all together.... <ducking behind desk>

coppercoins · February 7, 2003 6:44AM

In all actuality there is little if any chance that the cent will be removed altogether. Pollsters have been out talking with Americans about it for a number of years (since 1984) and many who don't know the implications of getting rid of the cent would vote to do so. It's only after understanding completely what the cent does for our commerce and what it does to save you and I money that the majority votes to keep it in. That should tell you something about the viability of the littlest denomination. It's useful, even though manydon't understand why.

As for the possibility of design change, it is much more likely that the government decides to run a special design for a year, then they will get rid of Lincoln and go with another design. I have been working on that design for a long period of time, and when some congressional decision is made I intend on taking my design to them.

baccaruda · February 7, 2003 6:50AM

copper:

give us a sneak-peek at your new design?

coppercoins · February 7, 2003 7:03AM

Not until we get closer to redesign time. I want it to be a pleasant suprise to all. Only two people have ever seen it and one of them is me.

merz2 · February 7, 2003 7:07AM

As a long time Lincoln man,I've always said the revese should be Wheat in 2009 then discontinue the cent altogether.

STEWARTBLAYNUMIS · February 7, 2003 7:19AM

Hey Guys,

I agree partially with spinynorman and merz 2.

I would like to see a special Proof 2009 s with the reverse wheat sheaves and a V.D.B. on the lower reverse

Can you imagine a 2009 s v.d.b. ?

stewart

goose3 · February 7, 2003 7:22AM

How about a cent in '09 with Lincoln one one side and the Indian on the other! Wouldn't be much use for "heads and tails" tho.

flaminio · February 7, 2003 7:45AM

<< <i>like to lose the cent completely? i don't know, i'm torn. shoot the thing's been around since our nation's birth just about, i think it's at least time to change it. >>

Well, the half-cent was born at the same time, and there haven't been any of those since 1857. According to my inflation calcular ½c in 1857 is worth 10c today, so I'm not sure why any coin less than a dime is necessary in commerce.

dldallen · February 7, 2003 10:15AM

Check my math but wouldn't the 2009 Lincoln actually be the 101st year of its production? Either way, I say commemorate and relegate to history. Dave

coppercoins · February 7, 2003 10:25AM

dldallen - Yup, 2009 would be the 101st year, but it would mark the 200th anniversary of the birth of Lincoln...that's more the point.

Wow...flash back to having to explain to people why 2000 wasn't the beginning of a new millennium...LOL!

flaminio · February 7, 2003 10:29AM

<< <i>Check my math but wouldn't the 2009 Lincoln actually be the 101st year of its production? Either way, I say commemorate and relegate to history. >>

Yes, that's correct. In my cent fantasy, 2008 would be the last regular production year for the Lincoln cent, making an even hundred years of circulating Lincolns. The 2009 cent would be a special commemorative cent. And just for kicks and giggles, make it 100% copper and the size of the old large cents. Then no more one cent coins, with the nickel being the smallest denomination.

baccaruda · February 7, 2003 10:36AM

it would be the 101st year, but would also be after 50 years with the memorial reverse, just like the memorial started on the 51st year after the wheatback reverse.

cladking · February 7, 2003 12:08PM

Cent production should be stopped immediately and the coins in circulation
recalled for safe disposal. This would primarily reduce the costs of operating
the government and business. It would also protect people and animals from
zinc poisoning and free up a great deal of productive capacity at the mint.
Cents could still be made for mint and proof sets until 2009 when the last
issue could revert to the original design (ie 2009-S VDB). At this time the cent
should be retired completely.

Besides the huge cost savings the benefits would be higher quality coinage
since the mint's die shop will be able to catch up. This could lead to an increase
in the number of coin collectors and the profits on mint products. It will defin-
itely lead to more attractive coins (And get rid of the presidents). It would give
cent collecting a big shot in the arm as people like to collect old and obsolete things,
and it puts some great new coins in sets.

It would also get rid of the cents one sees lying around. The fed could offer two
cents each and they could probably recover as many as about 75 billion.

keets · February 7, 2003 12:37PM

........continue the current design/composition through 2008. that's ample time for all the romantics to save whatever they think they'll need for a penny fix till they meet their maker. business can adjust whatever they think they need to adjust, and then give old Abe a big send-off in 2009 by making the coin of the 1909 composition in duplicate mintages for the 1909 V.D.B.---1909-S V.D.B.---1909---1909-S. the mint could market a low pop of collector sets, something like 50,000 and release the rest to circulation.

as an added thought, anyone who begs for the continuation of the coin is really in the same boat as the misguided Virginia legislature. it isn't needed and would be quickly adapted to.

now go ahead and shoot!!! i can take it.

al h.

Tootawl · February 7, 2003 1:35PM

I'm in favor of 2009 wheats with the 2009 S VDB. Then come up with a new design for both sides for 2010.

lclugza · February 7, 2003 1:49PM

Lincoln's fate in 2009? I say that in 2009, Lincoln will still be dead, just like Elvis Presley.

That reminds me, on "The Hollywood Squares," Paul Lynde was asked "In what state was Abraham Lincoln born?" and he replied "Naked and screaming!"

Anyway, I voted to have a one year Lincoln commemorative, then drop the cent. But I also say give all the dead presidents and other real people the boot, and bring back "Miss Liberty" on our circulating coins!

The cent is now a near worthless coin. But I would not mind keeping the cent if the dollar were revalued so it would buy more (i.e. one new dollar being worth ten or twenty current dollars) and consequently our circulating coins were made of silver and gold again (with a mostly copper cent again).

richbeat · February 8, 2003 2:40PM

I'll go along with the others who voted for the wheat reverse with the VDB initials.

POLL: Determine Lincoln's fate in 2009

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