largest crossover spread

mrfred · February 6, 2003 3:10AM

OK -- new thread; let's see where it goes.

Everybody who has sent a slabbed coin in on crossover (one slabbing company to another), what is the largest crossover spread you saw, and from what to what? E.g. "I sent in an AU50 and it came back ten points higher: MS-60. That sort of thing. Just curious.

nwcs · February 6, 2003 3:13AM

Just 1 point:

1884 S$1 MS63......was ANACS 64
1883-O S$1 MS64....was ANACS 64
1880-S S$1 MS64 ...was NGC 64
1881 S$1 MS63......was PCI 64
1880-S S$1 MS63....was SEGS 63

mrfred · February 6, 2003 3:14AM

thanks -- that's just the kind of data i have in mind. Keep 'em coming folks. Interesting data...

MadMarty · February 6, 2003 3:21AM

I sent a PCGS bodybagged environmentally damaged, cleaned, whizzed, coin with PVC on it to AGC and got a MS69!!!

Russ · February 6, 2003 3:23AM

ACG PR70CAM to PCGS PR67 no cam.
NGC PR68CAM to PCGS PR64 no cam (there was a legitimate reason for that one, though).

Russ, NCNE

geb209 · February 6, 2003 3:33AM

ICG MS 64 crossed to PCGS AU 58.

BTW, AU50 to PCGS 60 is not really ten points. Rather, its more like 4 grading notches.

Android · February 6, 2003 3:33AM

PCGS MS65 FB 1940 D Merc to NGC MS67FB - and a high end 67 at that. I now understand those who complain about a 50% grading guarantee covering only overgraded coins but not undergraded ones

Andy

cointagious · February 6, 2003 3:38AM

bought an ugly, heavily toned acg au53ish coin a fews years ago, cleaned her up and it came back ms64 from ngc. think it was a seated ¼ or ½. i've had many, many acg coins cross at higher grades at both ngc and pcgs...but it does take a lot of looking.

mrfred · February 6, 2003 3:47AM

thanks folks... keep 'em coming.

geb209 - thanks, you are quite right. I was typing hastily and wanted an example. And in any case it is eleven points (ten intervals) in any case.

vam44 · February 6, 2003 3:58AM

Last year I had a 45 micro s merc go from a PCGS NO GRADE- environmental damage ???

to a NGC 67. Would that be a 67 point spread???

braddick · February 6, 2003 6:11AM

This Cleveland was in a PCI VF30 holder and jumped 15 spots up with PCGS (now in an XF45).

The only 'problem' is it REALLY is a VF coin and I didn't want it to upgrade.

MadMarty · February 6, 2003 6:16AM

<< <i>The only 'problem' is it REALLY is a VF coin and I didn't want it to upgrade. >>

Something other than a single digit grade, Pat I'm shocked!!!

jeffnpcb · February 6, 2003 6:56AM

At least it finishes your collection of MS 69's, all of them!

mrfred · February 6, 2003 7:01AM

vam44 - yep. that's a 44 point spread. And a homerun, I think!!

09sVDB · February 6, 2003 8:19AM

One point. NGC 1834 1/2 cent from MS62 to PCGS MS63.

onlyroosies · February 6, 2003 8:51AM

I've had a PCGS MS65 Roosie go to an NGC MS68, It took 4 tries to get there. My most recent was an ICG MS68
Roosie to an NGC MS65. Ahhhhhhhhh....Its a 7, I never should have crscked it.

Placid · February 6, 2003 9:04AM

Seated dollar anacs xf-45-pcgs vf-35

DCAMFranklin · February 6, 2003 9:09AM

1961 NGC PF-68 Franklin came back from ICG as a PR-64 Cameo.

coynclecter · February 6, 2003 9:21AM

Well my Huegonot went from PCGS65 to PCGS62 and then to NGC65. I sold it and good riddens

rainbowroosie · February 6, 2003 9:49AM

PCGS 66 1943 Merc (color) to PCGS 64 Merc (color) to PCGS 67 Merc (color)....same coin???? It is a raw high end 67.....

mrfred · February 7, 2003 12:41AM

back to the top... thanks everybody... anybody else?

JohnButlerfromLV · February 7, 2003 2:16AM

It was not unusual to see a VF 25 coin be raised to XF 40 or a VF 30 being raised to XF 45 while I was at PCGS. There are occasions when a grading service can be quite far off on grading circulated coins. The majority of the graders at all the grading services spent a major portion of their coin careers buying and selling higher end mint state coins to make a living. Let's face it, if your talented enough to grade for a grading firm. You would rather sell 10 $1000 coins rather than 2000 $5.00 coins. Handling circulated coins is very time consuming process. It is also very lucrative segment of the market that is often overlooked.
That is where I spend most of my time these days looking at circulated coins.

dorkkarl · February 7, 2003 2:50AM

1926-s buffalo, pcgs-35 -> anacs-12 (23 points differential)

i had 3 other buff's in pcgs "vf+" holders fall into anacs "fine" range, but the 23 point differential is my personal record.

K S

Tman · February 7, 2003 3:43AM

My biggest jump was PCI 58 to PCGS 63 on a 57' flying eagle.

Love them PCI holders. The older the better.

Tman

airplanenut · February 7, 2003 3:51AM

63 points... PCGS63 to NGC BB

It is NOT AT (nor just a 63

)

flaminio · February 7, 2003 4:40AM

PCI 69 to PCGS 66

MrEureka · February 7, 2003 4:46AM

OK, I'll play!

Had an 1856-D quarter eagle go from PCGS XF45 to NGC MS60. (Typical weak strike explains the confusion?)

Had a gold dollar go from NGC MS64 to PCGS PR66. (I thought it was MS66PL.)

Had a bust half go from ANACS MS62 to NGC PR64. (I really don't know if this was a true proof, but it WAS a good deal!)

perfectstrike · February 7, 2003 6:04AM

ICG PR69DCAM to PR66RD.

perfectstrike

rays · February 7, 2003 6:10AM

I bought a 1795 half cent raw as VF20. First, I sent it to PCGS. Came back in a body bag, altered surfaces. Sent to NGC, came back VF20. Crossed back to PCGS, came back VF35.

DCAMFranklin · February 8, 2003 6:27AM

ttt

Comet · February 8, 2003 6:39AM

1841 S $1 SEGS MS 60 to PCGS 58
1843 S $1 NGC MS 61 to PCGS 55
1857 S $1 NGC MS 61 to PCGS 62

KlectorKid · February 8, 2003 6:41AM

Welcome Comet!

Comet · February 8, 2003 6:46AM

Hello KlectorKid and everyone!

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