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(Newby) old PCGS vs. new PCGS

BamaBoyBamaBoy Posts: 6
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From reading the forums, I have a question. I have purchased several old PCGS slabs. They seem to be better coins than some of the equivalent grades I bought. Was there a different grading standard then?
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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Was there a different grading standard then? >>



    Many would argue that PCGS standards have shifted over the years, from very tight to looser back to very tight. Speaking only for the series with which I'm most familiar (proof Kennedy halves), I agree with that assessment.

    However, even during tight periods, not all the coins are undergraded, and during loose periods not all the coins are overgraded. You have to evaluate each on it's own merits and decide for yourself.

    And, welcome aboard! Got proof JFKs?

    Russ, NCNE
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  • BamaBoyBamaBoy Posts: 6
    Strictly collecting Jeffersons at the moment. Just got into them and love them. Having alot of fun. It has been years since I collected coins.
    "We trained hard...but it seemed that every time we were beginning to form up into teams, we would be reorganized.."
    Petronious Arbiter, 210BC
  • HamboneHambone Posts: 41
    Although I have listened intently and read of swings in grading opinions, I can offer no real input due to the fact that I have never purchased, sold, or traded a slabbed coin from any service. Just my preference to deal in raw "shtuff". image

    BTW, Welcome to the boards.!! Where is BamaBoy from.? I am from around the Montgomery area.

    Jeff
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  • BamaBoyBamaBoy Posts: 6
    Huntsville, the Rocket City. Today there is a big memorial service for the crew. The army ones belong to my command.
    "We trained hard...but it seemed that every time we were beginning to form up into teams, we would be reorganized.."
    Petronious Arbiter, 210BC
  • OuthaulOuthaul Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm in the process of assembling a classic commem type set in the 1st generation PCGS holders. I find that some coins look better than the grade and some are right on the money.

    There are also those who seem to think that the old holders have long since been cherrypicked and that anything (or almost anything) left in the 1st generation holders will not upgrade.

    Personally, I have found that the lower MS grades (60 - 64) in the more common coins are not worth the extra money to upgrade.

    Hope this helps.

    Cheers,

    Bob

    Oh yeah...Welcome to the boards!image
  • nwcsnwcs Posts: 13,386 ✭✭✭
    Welcome to the board. I wish you and your group peace for these days.
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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Strictly collecting Jeffersons at the moment. Just got into them and love them. >>



    BamaBoy,

    Here's a tasty one:

    image

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    Russ, NCNE
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  • dwooddwood Posts: 821
    RUSS!!!!!

    QUIT THAT!!!!! You're gonna start a massive bidding war between me, BamaBoy, baccaruda, Carl, and the other toned Jeff lovers! And then you're not going to sell it to us anyway!

    BamaBoy, and hambone...I'm in Alex City. Its looking like there are more of us Alabamians here than I would have ever imagined. And BamaBoy, if you're very familiar with the Redstone Arsenal, I'd be interested in speaking with you. There's a swatch of land in the middle of it that is privately owned...are you familiar with it?
    dwood

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  • krankykranky Posts: 8,709 ✭✭✭
    Welcome to the boards, BamaBoy. I have been to HSV many times (going back to when the airport was the "Jetplex") and always liked it. I saw John Stallworth (Steeler Hall of Fame WR) at Darryl's once, and even though I'm from Pittsburgh I couldn't bring myself to go up and ask for an autograph since he was eating with his family. And that S. Memorial Parkway with the roller-coaster effect - never saw that anywhere else I've ever been.

    Russ and Outhaul said what I would have.

    New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.

  • dorkkarldorkkarl Posts: 12,691 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I have purchased several old PCGS slabs. They seem to be better coins than some of the equivalent grades I bought. Was there a different grading standard then? >>

    no! there were just better coins back then!

    K S
  • BamaBoyBamaBoy Posts: 6
    David,

    I couldn't tell you who farms it. I can ask around if you want.

    Randall
    "We trained hard...but it seemed that every time we were beginning to form up into teams, we would be reorganized.."
    Petronious Arbiter, 210BC
  • AbesNeighborAbesNeighbor Posts: 705
    I spent some time at Redstone.... I was in an S-2 unit and worked in the sec. Vaults...Eons ago.

    Dan
  • OuthaulOuthaul Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I spent a year in Alabama one week.image

    Cheers,

    Bob
  • LincolnCentManLincolnCentMan Posts: 5,347 ✭✭✭✭
    Wheat cents in the new barcode slabs are almost always better than those in the older slabs. I can only speak for cents, since I dont deal with many other coins.

    David
    Lincolncentman Toned Lincolns
  • jeffnpcbjeffnpcb Posts: 1,943 ✭
    image I also own several of the first slabbed PCGS coins. Comparing old and new, it appears that the earlier slabs, because of cost and possible other factors, dealers and colllectors were very selective of the quality and eye appeal. Now it seems, anything in a proof set, mint set or bank role gets sent in for an increase in price value. There are exceptions, but, MY GOD, every where you look, if it's not slabbed, it is not so;d!imageimage
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  • osirisMMIIosirisMMII Posts: 225
    BamaBoy - Welcome to the ever-evolving PCGS grading standards! The past 6 months have been very inconsistant at PCGS for moderns (both ways - to tight & too loose *ugh*) - especially for your (and mine) beloved Jeffs. Several of the highest grade Jeffs I have purchased in the past few months (recently graded) would not have made the grade a year ago imageimage Coins that were basically impossible to make have been poppin' like corn in Orville Redenbachers' kitchen! Keep an eye on the pops of highest grade Jeffs - top pops have been jumping radically and I haven't heard of any hoards of old cameos and superbly struck Jeffs being discovered recently........... image PCGS needs to get a grip and get consistant!!!!!!!
    ahhhh....... SODO MELVIN?????

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