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mdwoodsmdwoods Posts: 5,549 ✭✭✭
Stupid is reacting to others inflammatory posts. I am stupid. Stupid is listening to dealers who bash moderns when all they stock is "Classic" coinage. Stupid is thinking that dealers are your friends. (there are exceptions) They are here to make money and sell you what they stock, not what you want to buy. Stupid are the people who lurk like vultures waiting for an innocent remark they can twist to suit their self righteous egos. Stupid is me for posting this, but I am sick of people telling me that it is foolish to collect high grade moderns. I don't comment about your sexuality, religion, or any other personal things, I don't want your comments about my collecting habits. If you choose to do so, expect flames. I don't like any coinage after the Draped Bust coins until the 20th Century. I AM SORRY THAT I DON'T like the 19th century designs. I don't care that my PCGS MS69RED Lincoln is not worth 275 out of the slab. JUST SHUT UP and leave it alone. mdwoods (going psycho)
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  • krankykranky Posts: 8,709 ✭✭✭
    I think you are a knowledgable collector, Mark. Your opinion is as valid as anyone else's.

    New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.

  • EVillageProwlerEVillageProwler Posts: 5,856 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Dude,

    If I may suggest, respectfully: take a break. Go pet your dog or play with your kids. Go do something recreational that isn't numismatic (or collectibles) in nature. There has been a lot of pi$$ and vinegar on the boards of late, and it makes perfect sense if we need to step back from time to time.

    No offense intended. Really.

    Stupid is thinking that dealers are your friends.

    This is a truism, but is not limited to dealers. It applies to people in general. However, just like I can make friends with collectors, so can I with dealers -- because dealers are people too. It is true that most of my friends in the coin biz/hobby are collectors than dealers, but that is because I'm a collector and I have more in common with the collector mentality.

    But, I can think of a few dealers in whom I have more trust than some of the so-called friendly collector acquaintainces I've made over the years.

    Regards,

    EVP

    How does one get a hater to stop hating?

    I can be reached at evillageprowler@gmail.com

  • wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 16,982 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "I don't care that my PCGS MS69RED Lincoln is not worth 275 out of the slab. JUST SHUT UP and leave it alone. mdwoods (going psycho"

    Mark: If the attacks were well balanced, I would feel differently as well. For example, I wonder if Stuart's 1919(p) Lincoln Cent in PCGS-MS69RD is worth the same money in a flip? image What do you think? Odds are we will never know the answer to that question image

    Hey, I passed on buying a exceedingly rare PCGS-PR69 Barber quarter at FUN in the auction, because I personally felt the coin wouldn't be worth nearly as much out of that holder. Mark, check out the scans from the Heritage archives on that coin that just sold at FUN. Nothing personal against that quarter - same argument as one could make about a 1999 Lincoln cent in PCGS-MS69 image Wondercoin
    Please visit my website at www.wondercoins.com and my ebay auctions under my user name www.wondercoin.com.
  • Your starting to sound like me the other day, It's easy to get really wraped up and passionate about what you collect, it's a personal thing. IT"S OK TO COLLECT MODERN COINS................
    " I hoard coins, that's what I do, it's my nature"
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  • mdwoodsmdwoods Posts: 5,549 ✭✭✭
    Sorry, I guess I lost it.
    National Register Of Big Trees

    We'll use our hands and hearts and if we must we'll use our heads.
  • Stupid is trying to change the lawn mower blade with the engine running........I swear I'll never do that again....image
    " I hoard coins, that's what I do, it's my nature"
    ____________________________
  • clw54clw54 Posts: 3,815 ✭✭✭
    Good rant, Mark. image
  • FairlanemanFairlaneman Posts: 10,424 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Every Village has its Idiots. Most people just Ignore these Idiots and what they say or state about a topic. Its no different here with the Closed Mind Idiot behavior of some.

    Enjoy what you collect and Ignore the Idiot mentality that some must push onto others.

    Ken
  • mbbikermbbiker Posts: 2,873
    I feel the same way you do, I'm really starting to like this modern collecting. It's amazing that you see your pocket change everyday but you never know what it really looks like until you see it in higher grades like ms-68 and 69. I know most of the sacs i've seen are in the 64-65 range and honestly they look like crap but i can see how nice they would look in higher grades.
  • EVillageProwlerEVillageProwler Posts: 5,856 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Every Village has its Idiots.

    Hey!

    I think I resemble that remark!

    image

    EVP

    How does one get a hater to stop hating?

    I can be reached at evillageprowler@gmail.com

  • FairlanemanFairlaneman Posts: 10,424 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Opps.... forgot You posted to this. image

    Ken
  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    Just a few points that I would like to make and then I will be quiet.

    Collect whatever coins you want, slabbed, unslabbed or out of your pocket its ok.

    Pick a dealer that carries the type of coins you like in the grades you like.

    Pick dealers with whom you can have a friendly and professional relationship with.

    Always sell a few coins every year to check if you are buying and paying for the proper quality of coins.

    View your collecting as a hobby, but when you start holding appreciable value of coins, then exert

    reasonable and prudent concern for values and resale potential.

    If you purchase a slabbed coin, stay with the two main companies and then grade the coin yourself

    to see if it has detremental faults.When you go to sell that coin, better believe that the buyer will

    spot every flaw, carbon spot,milk spot, scratch and lack of surface luster on MS coins.

    Respect another persons legitimate opinions and views on collecting.

    If you must disagree, please do so without becoming disagreable.

    Always remember, this hobby , to most of us,is supposed to be a relaxing and entertaining pastime.

    If a dealer comes on the Forum to share their knowledge and experience with us in a professional

    manner, treat them with the respect and cordiality they are due.

    Finally, observe the golden rule,treat others as you wish to be treated.

    Finally ignore Trolls as best you can, they usually get bored by such treatment and go away.

    You all have a nice Sunday and hope we have a nice story to read by the Great Bard Clankeye

    on Monday morning. As an after thought, if you make money from your hobby, thats great. Dont ever

    be embarrassed by the fact that you are a wise and nimble collector.
    There once was a place called
    Camelotimage
  • chiefbobchiefbob Posts: 1,077 ✭✭✭
    Mark,

    As I write this from the Numismatic Nut House (ok, I'm actually dictating it to an orderly due to the straight-jacket), I can feel your pain. I also collect so-called "modern coins", and a bunch of other stuff besides. In fact, my wife committed me to this fine institution due to my collecting psychosis. The final straw was when I attempted to bid on some rare, graded barbed-wire on eBay. That's the last I saw of her (and my collection). There's no hope. But, there's some solace that I share with my fellow collector-patients as I listen to their loud ravings about "raw", "classic", "neo-modern", etc. There's a special room, though, that's reserved only for slabbers. I'm afraid I'll wind up in there soon, as my collection has some of those too.

    Is everyone getting cabin-fever on these forums? Only those of us in the Northern Tier (tundra) should be able to claim that. We have over 2 feet of snow still on the ground and my wife has a meat cleaver in her hand. Gotta run to my den before she catches me.....

    Bob
    Retired Air Force 1965-2000
    Vietnam Vet 1968-1969
  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    Run fast bob and bar the door.Tell her that you love here and want to take her out to dinner. That

    is if you are able to get thru the snow to a resteraunt.image
    There once was a place called
    Camelotimage
  • BigEBigE Posts: 6,949 ✭✭✭
    MD, there is an easy solution to this---------only collect 67's in 66 holders-----------thats what I doimage-----------BigE
    I'm glad I am a Tree
  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    Big E - I would only add one small suggestion to yours, " and only pay 64 prices".image
    There once was a place called
    Camelotimage
  • BigEBigE Posts: 6,949 ✭✭✭
    Yes Bear, that too!image-----BigE
    I'm glad I am a Tree
  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,198 ✭✭✭✭✭
    mdwoods, it's good to be passionate for anything you choose to collect. For that you should be complimented.

    Passion/interest first.

    Gain, second.

    Maybe even a distant second for some.

    peacockcoins

  • As a collector of modern commems I can relate. All the debate and pontification that goes on around here by the 'classic' collectors isn't worth a hill of beans because the market dictates value. Thread after thread of debasement and flaming of modern collectors won't change that fact.
  • LucyBopLucyBop Posts: 14,001 ✭✭✭
    "Stupid is as Stupid does"
    -FGump
    imageBe Bop A Lula!!
    "Senorita HepKitty"
    "I want a real cool Kitty from Hepcat City, to stay in step with me" - Bill Carter
  • I'm glad you let your steam out. Everyone needs to vent once in a while.

    The sign of a true friend is someone who feels as though they can let their feelings through (happy or sad).
  • MacCoinMacCoin Posts: 2,544 ✭✭


    << <i>You want to know what is stupid >>

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    I hate it when you see my post before I can edit the spelling.

    Always looking for nice type coins

    my local dealer
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    This thread needs a picture.

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    Russ, NCNE
  • Mark,
    You're cool brother, don't let the turkeys get you down!
    Joe

  • bear
    got ta go with your post of 2:39pm. I lean toward pre-1900s, also own a few mod. comms (though perfer older silver). Some are just too good lookin ta let go-bye. JUST GET INVOLVED YOU ALL ! feel the emoitions, be it for hobby or profit. enjoy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    ctf
  • ZerbeZerbe Posts: 587 ✭✭
    Hang in there MDWOODS !! I would'nt let any comments on this forum bother me. At least you don't have to worry about some coin doctor puttying up your 1913-D Saint. Everone collects what they like and I for one do not have any bad comments about collectors who collect a different series than me. image
  • dorkkarldorkkarl Posts: 12,691 ✭✭✭
    sounds like your upset about the wrong thing. you're ms-69 red lincoln IS over-priced - for the hobby of numismatics. but you are a numis-plastics collectors (which i am not saying in any derogatory way whatsoever, collect what you like). in that case, the price sounds appropriate.

    K S
  • mdwoodsmdwoods Posts: 5,549 ✭✭✭
    sounds like your upset about the wrong thing. you're ms-69 red lincoln IS over-priced - for the hobby of numismatics. but you are a numis-plastics collectors (which i am not saying in any derogatory way whatsoever, collect what you like). in that case, the price sounds appropriate.

    Yesterday I couldn't have handled this non-derogatory remark. Today I wonder how you can judge my Lincoln without seeing it. It looks like a MS-70 to me. I paid a bit more than 275, and I don't regret it one bit. I have a nearly perfect Lincoln cent. I do play the Registry game in my Modern Type set. However I have accumulated some of the finest examples minted of particular types. Some of my favorite coins are not slabbed, and never will be slabbed. Please don't try to push me into one little category. My collecting habits are not that simple and I should not have to defend myself for what I choose to collect. It is no secret that you love to slam slabbing in general. Why bother? I don't slab your raw coins, it would never enter my mind to do so. mdwoods
    National Register Of Big Trees

    We'll use our hands and hearts and if we must we'll use our heads.
  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    Mdwoods - When its our money we spend, we get to collect what we like,

    select the coins that we like, for whatever reason we like.In our hobby, to quote

    Huey Long "Every man a king". Collect away my friend. Bear

    Oh I forgot and every woman a queen!!!
    There once was a place called
    Camelotimage
  • mdwoods -- I second (and third and fourth etc) the reactions expressed here: go for what you like and pay what you can and need to pay to get it.

    Life got you down? Listen to John Coltrane.

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