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for any one who wants to know what a decent 64 barber half should look like

check out the image of the p.c.g.s. m.s. 64 1900 barber half being sold at the long beach auction in a litte over 1 month. The picture is posted on the heritage website under the long beach preview section. look at this pick and tell me if you think it's natural or dipped but the luster is like most of my barbers. I haven't decided if i'm going to bid on this coin yet cause i'm not sure if this piece was dipped and started to retone or just naturally mostly white, but i like the luster and strike and surface quality for 64. let me know what you think.
The President claims he didn't lie about taxes for those earning less then $250,000 a year with public mandated health insurance yet his own justice department has said they will use the right of the government to tax when the states appeals go to court.

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  • pleeze post a link as i'm much to lazy to search it.
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  • ARCOARCO Posts: 4,419 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Took a second to find. I only saw a 65 PCGS Half. Probably the one.

    1905 PCGS MS 65 Barber Half

    Looks like it has very nice toning, doesn't look dipped so maybe I have linked the wrong coin.

    Tyler
  • AgflyerAgflyer Posts: 948 ✭✭✭
    Does Heritage use a scanner for their photos? I'm wondering due to a lack of luster that their coins seem to show.
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  • barberloverbarberlover Posts: 2,228 ✭✭
    arco, you linked the wrong coin because i posted the wrong date [oops] sorry. Anyway the coin is a m.s. 64 an the date is 1900 not 1905. it's near the bottom of the page before the 1905, if you could post it to this thead like you did the 1905 i'd appreciate it [since i can't] and give me your opionion on it. By the way i like the color on the 05, but the luster looks totally washed out.
    The President claims he didn't lie about taxes for those earning less then $250,000 a year with public mandated health insurance yet his own justice department has said they will use the right of the government to tax when the states appeals go to court.
  • BigD5BigD5 Posts: 3,433
    I'd link it, but I can't find the preview for those lots! I'll look again. I like the look of the 1905 though. Seems like a nice example. image
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  • ARCOARCO Posts: 4,419 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Got it.

    1900 PCGS 64

  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    image

    That's my monster Barber.image

    Russ, NCNE
  • Dog97Dog97 Posts: 7,874 ✭✭✭
    <<<<that has only a suggestion of golden-brown patina across the margins<<<<
    Because it was only a suggestion od dipping.
    That looks like a ms61 hit upside the head.
    The 05 is way nicer.
    Change that we can believe in is that change which is 90% silver.
  • stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Barberlover, for my taste I don't like it. With that goldish brown only on the edge a little bit, tells me it's probably dipped and starting to turn. JMO
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  • ARCOARCO Posts: 4,419 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Russ- we have got to work on getting you a nice Fine or VF barber half for you type set. Whew! LOL

    Tyler
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Tyler,

    Nope, I like that one and will never replace it. It was a gift from a forum member.image Of course, that wouldn't preclude me accepting another, higher graded, gift.image

    Russ, NCNE
  • ARCOARCO Posts: 4,419 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I understand. Coins gifted mean a lot. I will look for a super nice Fine for you if you like. All my duplicates are currently on Ebay for sale, but none of them would be worthy of what we would need for you.

    Tyler
  • I don't know if this matters or if you care but I just wanted to let you know when you post links for these coins anyone who visits the link is able to acess your account with heritage. I don't know to what extent but it's someting to look into.

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  • NicNic Posts: 3,387 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The pic looks great but the coin will sell sight seen to the floor, or for too much via the web, if an upgrade candidate. K
  • stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>That looks like a ms61 hit upside the head >>



    Boy Dog, and you call me a "grumpy old time tech grader"
    May I refer you to the Coinguy1 thread #2 on grading. He says not to focus too much on the negative. I agree in part, but I added about how enlarged the image could be and seeing a hit that might be overkill.

    But it does look like someone took a chisel upside her head. And dipped and retoned nasty. Ok, I'll agree it's worth 60 price, but not to me.
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  • Dog97Dog97 Posts: 7,874 ✭✭✭
    stman-
    Coinguy1 is one of those bubbly cheerful sorts that bounces out of bed all bright eyed & bushy tailed telling everybody good morning & wonderful day.
    I stumble out of bed to the coffee pot like a psycho mono syllable speaking zombie and my day generally goes to hell after that.
    Did you notice the slide marks all over Liberty's face & neck?
    Change that we can believe in is that change which is 90% silver.
  • barberloverbarberlover Posts: 2,228 ✭✭
    Thanks guys [and gals] the consensous opionion seems to be its dipped and retoning, and to large of a hit on the nogen. I guess the thing that caught my eye about this coin first was the luster is fuller than most slabbed 65's i've seen for sale lately and the feilds are very clean, i missed that hit because i was blinded by her beatiful luster. An old navy man once told me [refering to pretty ladies] powder and paint makes them look like they aint] i guess this beauty hid her wrinkles in her hair, and bedazzeled me with her pretty luster. Oh well [sob] just another pretty lady let me down hard. [But at least i won't be bidding on her!!!
    The President claims he didn't lie about taxes for those earning less then $250,000 a year with public mandated health insurance yet his own justice department has said they will use the right of the government to tax when the states appeals go to court.
  • FlashFlash Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭
    My 1900 half in 63 looks alot better than Heritage's coin does. Also, the fingerprint on the obverse ruins the coin for me.
    Matt
  • boiler78boiler78 Posts: 3,066 ✭✭✭✭✭
    We must be looking at a different coin? I still don't see the finger print and I think the coin is solid for the grade despite the "gouge" on the back of the head. Keep in mind the coin has been enlarged 10x. image
  • coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭
    For the record, Dog happens to be right about how I am when I get out of bed (very early) in the morning. But, it was just a lucky guess - I want to go on record as saying we do NOT sleep together. I love my wife, dearly. image

    On to the coin - from the images, (which is an almost impossible way to judge fairly) my guess is that the coin is retoning from a dipping. And, in my opinion, even though I don't like the mark on the head, it is perfectly acceptable for the grade.
  • Dog97Dog97 Posts: 7,874 ✭✭✭
    I went back to look at the fingerprint and clicked on the coin to blow it up and it went to regular size and I saw it was in a PCGS slab with a white insert! Since they used trick photography I wonder what the coin really looks like? Oh well, so much for the old holders being undergraded. image
    And I meant the hit looked like a 61 severity hit, I did not mean the COIN looked 61. It might have been market acceptable 20 years ago for a 65 to look like that but it's not a 65 I would want in my collection.
    Change that we can believe in is that change which is 90% silver.
  • stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>For the record, Dog happens to be right about how I am when I get out of bed (very early) in the morning. But, it was just a lucky guess - I want to go on record as saying we do NOT sleep together. I love my wife, dearly. >>



    Glad you cleared that up. Like I said earlier, I feel it's a dip and retone and the image is so enlarged that the hit on back of her head(which she probably deserved for being dipped) although looks deep is probably not that distracting considering how small a quarter is. I still wouldn't want it though. Hey Coinguy1, we agree!!!!
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  • Dog97Dog97 Posts: 7,874 ✭✭✭
    It's not a quarter, it's a big ole half dollar.
    Change that we can believe in is that change which is 90% silver.
  • stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Oh yeah, it's a half. I had quarter on my mind as I was interested in one today, but it went through 3 dealers hands in a couple days, hence the price is too high now.

    Back to the half, it would bother the heck out of me with that hit. Maybe it makes the grade by the book, but not in my book. I take that back Coinguy1, we don't agreeimage
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  • boiler78boiler78 Posts: 3,066 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ok Flash I give. Where is the finger print? A little help hereimage
  • jomjom Posts: 3,454 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That looks like a nice coin to me. What's the big deal?

    The picture of the 65 is atrocious...how can anyone think that is better by that photo? ARGH!

    jom image
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    I used to have a T-shirt that said "Cheery morning people should be shot". I'm with Dog. Until I have a pot of coffee in me in the morning I'm a Grade A Asshole, even more so than normal.image

    Russ, NCNE

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