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goodriddance189
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Hey, I've been reading the message boards for awhile now and i finally got around to getting an id to make my voice heard. I collect psa 9 hockey mainly, and some vintage stuff from other sports. I'm sure i've dealt with several of you through ebay (yawie99 comes to mind) and look forward to meeting some fellow collectors. thanks.
-bill
ps- if anyone out there collects high grade vintage hockey, let me know.
-bill
ps- if anyone out there collects high grade vintage hockey, let me know.
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Billy
Welcome to the board ! Great to have you here....
Dave
Also, directed to Steve, I know Becketts "legacy" of grading sheet-cut opc cards- which in my mind is completely wrong- but i have a psa 9 79-80 Dryden psa 9 that looks real suspect. Every other opc card i have has some sort of rough edges, but this one looks a bit too perfect. If you can take a look at it (ill scan it as an attachment here in a day or 2) and give me your opinion it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
Bill
Welcome to the boards. Nice to hear that you collect graded vintage hockey. We are in the minority here but are treated fairly well. Great group of people here, full of hobby knowledge and humour.
I like your idea of having an example from every post war set. That would make a great display piece.
Those early 50's PSA 9's will be tough and expensive.
Good luck with your collection.
Rob...
I bought plenty of 1979-80 OPC from wax back in that era. Not all of the cards came with rough edges even if you had to go through 5 and 6 boxes to find them. I would not be surprised if your Dryden is legit and not cut from a sheet. The 78-79 set was equally bad and I just picked up a few packs a couple of weeks ago. The edges were great not rough at all but the centering was terrible on some of the cards.
I didn't realize he wasn't going to insure it. Should I chalk this up to lesson learned or should he offer some kind of compensation? I sent an email to this seller and I'm currently waiting for a response.
Are these holders that easily broken or is this just bad luck on my part?
Advice please??
When you say " Broken in half " do you mean horizontilly across the face of the card? Is the slab in 2 separate pieces or just severely cracked? I ask because I cannot imagine a slab being broken cleanly in half unless done intentionally. What kind of force would it take to break a slab in half?
This sounds like a job for BRUCEMO.
Regarding the insurance issue. Nothing on Ebay is taken for granted. Your item is only insured if you have clearly inquired about it and paid for it. Most sellers mention that it is available if you require it, but it is rarely included unless it is a very high end item.
Rob...
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Welcome to the boards. Its always great to have another hockey collector on board. As a collector of vintage hockey i know full well how hard it is to locate. If you ever decide to build the 54 topps set it is a great choice , just do your research first and set goals with it. Some of the PSA 6 being graded today are comparable to PSA 8's from a couple years ago so dont get caught up in the numbers game. If you decide to put a set together in all 8 , make sure you bring 20 to 25 k(scary for a 60 card set) to the table and you will still need lots of help from other collectors etc. Its the only hockey set i know of that you can pay 3 times SMR and walk away thinking you got a deal.
As for your question about 79-80 OPC. ARO has hit it bang on, its a common misconception that all cards from 79-80 OPC have rough cuts not so just most of them. Clean cut cards including Gretzky do exist that werent cut from sheets . ARO also made a good point about 78-79 OPC being bad, I found it to the be the worst year of all OPC's and far worse than 79-80. I still have nightmares of opening a box of 78-79 OPC in 1991 and pulling a Bossy Rookie card that was so rough cut it was missing a corner entirely. I would be willing to bet i didnt pull a card out of that entire box that would grade an 8.
Randy
Welcome.
If the seller specifically indicates that insurance is not available and you receive a slabbed card that has been "broken in half", the seller needs to reimburse you. Email a scan of the wreckage to the seller and request reimbursement. See what happens. If the seller refuses, let him know that you would have purchased insurance if he had it available. If he still refuses, leave negative feedback and post his ebay id here. There are plenty of members here who enjoy "taking care" of sellers like this.
I just won two auctions from an ebay seller that charged $5 s&h for each card listed. After emailing him to request combined s&h, he replied that total s&h will be $6. I quickly sent payment and an email stating "At $6 s&h for two cards, I assume package will be insured since it's not offered in your auction listing?" I have not yet received a response. We'll see next week when I receive the cards (if I get them that soon). I'll be very upset if I receive a bubble mailer with $0.83 postage.
JEB.
I believe people that don't offer issurance just mail stuff right out of their house as I believe you have to actually go to the post office to obtain the insurance. Sellers like this should just self insure themselves on the small stuff.
Have you heard of many instances of holders breaking in half in the mail? I really didn't think that was possible. It would have to be pretty rough handling by the post office in order for that to happen.
<< <i>Have you heard of many instances of holders breaking in half in the mail? I really didn't think that was possible. It would have to be pretty rough handling by the post office in order for that to happen. >>
Check out this Previous Thread.
JEB.
Bill and Zeppo,
I would also like to say welcome to the boards!! Billy(Braves72078) and Dave(Stump) have said it all.
Vic
Bill welcome to the board...(Do they make 3D Hockey cards???...Hope so.....)
zeppo......
A solid "Welcome" to you also....
Great to have you both!!!
Larry
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Anyhow, welcome to the boards (you too Zeppo - it just doesn't seem so awkward saying "Welcome, Zeppo").
JEB.
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Zeppo, Sound like you had a good outcome. I would have expected the same. Most people on Ebay are honest, and want to provide good customer service. There are of course a few exceptions that ruin it for everyone. I don't look at Ebay as a buyer or seller beware place, but rather as a place to exchange goods. I have never understood why it is encumbent on the buyer to be responsible for goods. The seller is the one who packages it and usually selects the carrier. If I buy something from any online store, if I receive it damaged, I expect to be made whole. The same should apply here.
When a seller explicitly states that they are not responsible if you don't purchase insurance, then that is fine. They let you know up front. Whenver I sell, I guarantee my cards until you receive them. I still offer insurance at a higher than post office price, because some people insist on it. It amazes me that people will buy insurance for $3 for a $70 card, even though I guarantee it. I package things very well, and have never had anything lost or broken. IT is much more trouble for me to go wait 20-30 minutes in the middle of the day at the PO, than it is to make good on a small purchase that could get damaged or lost.
I have received a PSA card broken in half as you did. It was simply put in a bubble wrap w/o any additional protection. As soon as I notified the seller, he refunded my money.
Again, welcome to the board.
Buck
Did you get your '79 OPC Dryden from an ebay auction about a year or so ago? Lucky you for getting it! The only other '79 OPC PSA 9s I've seen for sale (besides Wayne) were the Howe, Hull, and the Oilers checklist (which I was able to score. Unfortunately, I was outbid on the other two). If anyone has anymore '79s worth sending in, I wish they would.
Do you have any "9-worthy" 85-86 OPC? Because so few have been graded, I wouldn't say I'm persuing them to collect the set, but I do bid pretty aggressively whenever they come up on ebay (which is rare). That's another set, while not as difficult as '79s, nonetheless has plenty of centering and rough cut problems. I'm also into 86-87 to an extent.
I hope people who have high quality raw OPCs are taking notice of the ebay auctions. Logically, you'd think that if there are 100+ PSA 9 Lemieux rookies, there'd have to be around that many for each card. Granted, sheet location, etc plays a major factor in a specific card's propensity to be a certain grade (and true, collectors probably took better care of Lemieux's card even in '85) but when Paul Coffey, Mike Gartner, Chris Chelios, et al PSA 9s are getting $35-40 in the auctions, you'd think it would be profitable to take a chance and send a batch to PSA.
Anyway, welcome to the boards. We always need more hockey collectors!
Anyone know for sure?
Seems like I learned that in some business law class once upon a time.
I have a few hundred extra PSA graded 1971 Kellogg's cards. E-mail for price list. Looking for 1970 Topps Supers in PSA 9 too.