Rainbow Jefferson - "stupid" color

rainbowroosie

Can anyone link this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=11955&item=3307432972

What do you think?

KlectorKid

Linky poo

GP

oooooooooooogggggggggaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa : drool:

rainbowroosie

KlectorKid -- thank you!!

DHeath

A real rarity. The rim is made of an entirely different metal. Notice how it didn't tone.

dwood

It is so strange that you linked this today because I was going through some "old stuff' of mine this afternoon and ran across a 62 proof set that I don't think I've ever looked at (just stuck it away years ago when I bought it). The Jefferson in it looks STRIKINGLY similar (no pun intended) to the one you've linked here. I wonder if it has something to do with the metal composition that year, or perhaps the plastic composite of the packaging, but mine has that same pinkish, "hinting at rainbow" look to it.

Also, the cent and half looked very good in that set. I'm tempted to yank them out and send them in!

Bear

Are those wonderful colores even possible in the natural order of things. Or did God

himself ,create another wonder for the world to marvel at?

Cam40

Stupid color....I suppose the seller would like to get stupid money for his stupid colored Proof Jeff?
Well,I,d buy it but I,m may not be stupid enough.

Its cool looking,BECAUSE its slabbed ANACS..or do they let doctored coins through now....

Cam40

The rim is made of an entirely different metal. Notice how it didn't tone
LMAO!!! Good one Don .I missed that one. Good eye.

Are those wonderful colores even possible in the natural order of things. Or did God....

Equally astute observation.
(scratches behind bears ear)..

kaleidoscopic

I love toned coins. Original toned coins. I'm not too convinced on that nickel. Kscope

nwcs

Boy, I wish people would crop their images better on ebay!!! Very unusual. Looks like a fingerprint on the obv. It is interesting how it is not on the rim, though. But if I owned it, I would sell it for stupid money -- but wouldn't buy it for stupid money!

Bear

There is no such thing as stupid money, only stupid people.

Russ

Holy crappola! It's a good thing I'm not doing a doobie right now.

Russ, NCNE

Cam40

or in our case its how Greg put it`some people have more money than brains`...

IrishMike

Andrew Kimmel who did a toning seminar at FUN had quite a few of these in his case, all kinds of color. They are from the Appalachian hoard.I had to drag Lakesammman and Shylock over to see them. I think Lakesammman was almost reaching for his wallet. I know I was. Here is a link to his site, trust me when I tell you these are ten times more spectacular in person. paragon

onlyroosies

Great color. Enhanced photo. Check out the slab color do they tone too.

Stigmata

Isn't it very possible to take a old slab and put a new coin in it? He may have just had another Jefferson with those stats, and just threw the toned one in there?...

stman

Irish Mike, I believe the nics from the Appalachian hoard were the war nickels in mint state. The original owner saved rolls of each date and mintmark. Here is one of those nickels. And I also believe they were all graded by NGC. This is NGC ms65*

Edit to add: but I agree they look ten times better in person, this came from Andrew Kimmel

eagle7

If the picture was better it might look like one of these. This coin is in a PCGS PR66 holder. I found it in an original cellophane government package. I was very surprised. I love this coin. In real life it looks as good or better than the picture. I didnt know proof nickles would do this.

dwood

Eagle7,
Mine is still in the original cellophane also, and has those pink tones almost throughout. Seeing mine today, then the one that started this thread, and now yours, which was also in the original wrapping all this time, makes me wonder what it is about 1962 that many of them are toning like this now. Do any of you Jeff collectors know if the composition or packaging changed in 62?

They sure are beautiful though! I've just about decided to send mine in (though I need to pull it out and look at it again to see if it is really a good strike). I'll try to remember to take a quick pic when I pull it out again. Also, I think some might be interested in the Franklin in there. It looks really good also.

eagle7

Several people now are reporting the 62 nickels as having this type of toning. I still think it is relatively rare though considering the thousands of sets out there. It is real and beautiful. PCGS will slab it, they did mine. I havent found a 62 half with anything near that kind of toning. One of those would be very nice. I have found some 61 and 62 copper which have a beautiful tone at the edge of the obverse and fades to the central devices. They look great also. I have pictures available of a 59 Proof nickle which has that kind of toning on half of the reverse. Looks like someone drew a chalk line down the center of the reverse. One half is the wild electric blue toning like the 62. PCGS slabbed it as well. Thanks.

dwood

This is really interesting, as not only do we have similar Jeffs, but you just described my Lincoln as if you'd seen it this afternoon! The toning on the Lincoln starts almost at the rim, then fades as it reaches the center. Right now, I suppose it would be defined as "a hint" of toning on the Lincoln.

And the Franklin is BLAST WHITE...not a hint of anything anywhere on it, but it looks to be a good strike and a good planchet, though I haven't looked at it very closely. I will tomorrow or Wednesday and post some pics.

MAN! These boards are PRICELESS!

CLASSICS

and look at how many people are starting to bid on it and even the seller says it is stupid hummmmmmmm,

Morganluver

Are those colors unenhanced or do they just look like that when tilted at the exact angle? Has anyone purchased a coin from this seller to give us an idea of what we might expect?

dwood

I don't know the dealer, but I don't think there is any question that the color of the photo has been enhanced, or the settings in his photo editor are leaning strongly to the red side. The red tones are obviously emphasized, making it a darker, more vivid pink than it probably is. Someone earlier pointed out you can see it in the slab itself (the color shift).

But the natural color of mie is a uniform pink, and rather deep, with hints of blue and yellow. You'll see

MrD

I am the seller of this proof nickel and I would like to say that there is no way that I or anyone else could capture the way this coin looks in person. The coin is so vibrant that the buyer would be pleased if he likes the picture at all. I do the best that I can taking pictures and I think that in most cases I do a very acceptable job. People keep questioning the way my pictures look but to be very honest I think these pictures are pretty darn close. I usually try to handle the most beautiful color coins that I can find and try to depict them in "the best possible light"..... check out my feedback(actually read the comments) and I think you will begin to realize that my photos are pretty close.
thank you,
Dick

braddick

ANACS isn't generally shy. If they don't like the color they'll label the insert, "ARTIFICAL COLOR" and net grade the coin out.

Unlike bodybagging the coin with "QUESTIONABLE COLOR" ANACS calls it the way they see it and on color coins, they're conservative.
If it's ANACS housed, the color is REAL (imho).

robertpr

I think the stupidest thing about that coin is the fact that even though it's a PROOF coin, ANACS still labeled and counted the steps. Now, THAT's stupid.

Russ

Hey MrD,

Can you do us all a favor (and yourself) and get a better picture host than AOL? I like checking your auctions, but sometimes I just give up and move on because I get tired of waiting for the pics to load off AOL's crappy, bogged down servers.

Russ, NCNE

stman

MrD, although I understand imaging toned coins is a tough task, with the exception of this nic, all the colors and images look the same to me. I haven't checked lately because of this.

They all have the same looking pastel colors. Clearly all these coins could not have the same hues to them. I have seen you state here before that it might not look the same in hand, but the colors are all there. Which I have no reason not to believe you at this time.

As far as feedback, it is a good indication how a person might do business, but some people will leave a positive and either not know any better, or are in fear of getting a neg. I am writing this to you so maybe you can clear up why almost all images have that pukey pastel look to them. And I am also directing this to you so you will know I'm not trying to say this behind your back.

Edit to add: I went and looked at this nic and your other auctions, and imo all the colors still look the same. I'm sure they are captured in their best light, but as someone that is used to looking at toned coins I find it very hard to believe they all have the same hues and pastel colors. I'm writing this as people on here always do question your imaging, so I decided to take the jump and ask you about them.

MrD

Perhaps its the process I use to prepare my pictures but I really don't think all the colors look alike...at least to me. I wish I could tell you more.
Dick

DHeath

MrD,

I liked your auction description, and having never done any business with you, have absolutely no reason to question your candor. ANACS is a competent grading firm in my estimation, and I wouldn't impune your or their reputation. That said, I am a big fan of the colorful proof Jeffs, and frequently bid on such coins, and have assembled a pretty good collection of them. My earlier comment regarding this coin was simply my take on the toning. I didn't bid on that coin because I didn't like the way the toning stopped short of the rims on both sides. It is apparent that the coin wasn't album toned, and being a proof coin, my best guess is that it was toned in the mint film. If that is true, the toning is a reaction to a gas in the bag. Gas usually doesn't selectively tone fields and devices and ignore the rims, like a liquid does. Did you submit the coin yourself or have knowledge of it prior to it's submission, or did you buy it holdered?

stman

MrD, thanks for your response. Please understand I was not trying to attack you, just don't understand that imo all the images have the same hues and colors. Whether it be a Barber or a Franklin to a Morgan.

MrD

I received two of these nickels from a consignor (different dates) and know nothing of their origin. I do believe there might be more and if so am trying to find out where so I can offer them. You may of may not think that the coins are original but you will think that they are spectacular...I guarantee it!
Dick

Tonekiller

We have around (10) 5c like these and I think GSAGuy has 40+ with the same type of toning as they all were bought from the same dealer. ANACS slabbed them for us and they are knock outs.

Given our past history and correspondence with this seller, I would recommend buying from him any day. Always has hard to find color and a good mix of coins for sell or on consignment. If you don’t like the purchase, just return it.

IMO,

TBT

Cam40