If there are millions of bags of high grade moderns out there where are the bag toned Rosys, Washing

Dog97

I've only seen a handful of textile tone that may or may not have been fingerprints and several crescents that may or may not have been from another coin. Seems like the only thing I see are mintset or album toners for these series.

eagle7

Great question Dog! I have to keep my mouth shut though cause my nomex under wear is still smoking from ole dragon's hot breath. I will keep a lower profile for a while you bet. I did find some pretty toned Rosies in a dime saver fold over once. About the same kind of toning in the mint set holders from the mid fifties.

cladking

Not only are there extremely few bags of most moderns, but there are also
very few rolls. Most of the clad moderns were saved in bags by only six or
eight individuals and these for the main part have been dispersed. There are
clad varieties that account for a significant percentage of production yet don't
exist in unc because they didn't appear in these few bags. It is very rare to
see a bag of clads more than a few years old and when you do it wiil tend to
be dollars or sometimes halfs. Most of the older clad rolls one sees are assem-
bled from mint sets.

There were large numbers of the silver bags set aside but time has not been
kind to them. Many were melted in the silver rush and many dates of the sil-
vers corroded or got ugly toning.

Clad doesn't seem to tone as readily as silver and is less likely to be attractive
when it does. In the future there should be some toned examples coming from
albums.

nwcs

I think the kind of tones you'll get on clads are more similar to the buffalos. Mainly because it is the copper toning alongside the nickel. I do have a few toned clad dimes, though. They are an electric blue and red. Very light, almost irredescent. Someday have to sell them for lots of $$$.

RotatedRainbows

The modern coins were stored in a different environment (climate controlled) which lessens the toning effect. Since air conditioning was not invented until the turn of the century and central heating around the same time the old silver dollar bags spent decades in uncontrolled environments whereas most moderns have always been stored where they are not exposed to the constant changes of hot, cold and humidity. It seems that bag toned Morgans were a one time anomaly that we probably will never see again in numismatics.

09sVDB

Russ has all the JFK's

cladking

I've seen moderns stored in enviroments which weren't climate controlled. For
the main part they seemed to weather it pretty well. At least one of the indi-
viduals who saved bags didn't get air conditioning before 1980. Don't know a-
bout storage conditions for the others, but mostly these bags were rolled and
sold rather than stored.

Morgans sat in bags in vaults with no climate control for decades. The fed didn't
rotate their coin stocks until 1972 so many bags of brand new coins got lost in the
system for many years before turning up. People saved bags of the silver dimes
and quarters as a speculation against future price increases. Many of these older
coins sat in bags for many years and in some cases there are still significant num-
bers of these bags extant.

Except for 1998 and later coins which haven't been released yet and a few Kennedy
and state quarter bags there simply aren't bags of moderns. They don't exist. The
coins were placed into circulation within three years of the date of issue and this is
where they are still found today.

If you don't believe there are virtually no bags then try to buy a bag of dimes or quar-
ters dated before 1982. In fact just try finding an original bank wrapped roll. These
much easier to find now that the prices have been moving up a little and still they are
extremely difficult to find. Many of the few rolls that are availailable were assembled
from mint sets.