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Coin show report: the NYC International

The NYC Int'l. was pretty crowded today. Like last year, it was on the top floor of the Waldorf and split among three rooms. I thought it was a bit less crowded than last year's show - at least it was a bit easier to get down the aisles. A couple of dealers were voicing unhappiness with the show: Jonathan Kern said he wouldn't be back next year, for example.

In addition to a lot of museum-quality world and ancient coins, I saw some impressive US and colonial currency, but very little in the way of US coins, as I expected.

Krause and Coin World were there, as was PCGS and ICG. Coin World was giving out samples of their snap-together version of the ANACS slab. I met Summer Douglass, who is as young and enthusiastic as you might expect.

I had a fairly long chat with James Taylor of ICG. He said that about 20%-40% of their volume now is ancients. He said that overall volume is back up and they've rehired most of the folks they had to lay off when volume dipped a while ago. I asked about them traveling to shows; he said that he and his assistant do the traveling, as the graders don't like to travel with shows and deal with flack from the collecting public. (Interesting and meaningful comment, that.)

We talked a little about the impact that HSN and the other TV shows have on the slabbing services. He remarked that when JP Martin (head grader) went on HSN, they sold $1.6 million worth of coins in six hours (two of which were 2:00 a.m. to 4:00 a.m.!) I remarked that that kind of volume must have a significant impact on the percentage of modern (vs "classic" coins) they and the other services grade. He commented that he had spoken to someone from NGC who said that about 80% of their recent volume was moderns.

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  • Thanks for the show update. Makes you wonder if James Taylor is the only person at ICG. In other words, nobody ever gets to see "the graders". He wears all of the hats .......promoter, VP, grader, janitor, etc. (of course he only has ONE hat). I close my eyes and see someone like the Wizard of Oz, only the guy in my imagination is wearing a cheezy beanie.
  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,240 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I wish I could have gone image
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  • WhitewashqtrWhitewashqtr Posts: 736 ✭✭✭
    Were there any Washington Quarters there. I didnt think you would find many, so I didnt go. Thanks for the feedback
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  • DaveGDaveG Posts: 3,535
    Sorry, no Washingtons that I saw, although I suppose Arnold Saslow might have had some.

    Also, I forgot to say that James Taylor said they were working on getting into the Blue Sheets, and they expected that to happen in a couple of months.

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  • NumisEdNumisEd Posts: 1,336
    The only way that they will get into the bluesheet is through an advertisement. I bet you know which ad too: "ICG ranks higher than any other service, as determined on an obscure ebay chat room with 2 participants". Am I the only one sick of seeing that same ad in Coin World?
  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,240 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Saslow might not have any washingtons. I've been to his shop twice, and when moderns came up, he pretty much frowned upon them... said he really only buys them if they are part of a large deal (slabbed, that is)... I guess key dates/older and high grade examples might be in his holdings...

    Jeremy
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  • cosmicdebriscosmicdebris Posts: 12,332 ✭✭✭
    Dave what time were you there? I was there from 10:00 a.m. to 11:30. Way too crowded for me. At least I got to meet Bj Searles PCGS's registry Set Administrator.
    Bill

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  • DaveGDaveG Posts: 3,535
    I was there from about 10:15 to about 1:15.

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