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Cool FUN coins part II, Blay's 1807 MS67 Bust Quarter & a rare copper FE pattern

shylockshylock Posts: 4,288 ✭✭✭
These two coins were a privilege just to hold. Stewart posted this in a previous thread but if anyone missed it it's worth a rerun. The crisp detail, smooth surfaces, subtle toning and velvety lustre were a clinic for me in what an original early coin is suppose to look like. The only Draped Bust Large Eagle quarter to grade 67:

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The coolest coin I saw was a J-179 copper pattern. If you love the Flying Eagle design for its simplicity this coin takes it to another level. Labeled (1856) by PCGS, the exact date of strike is unknown and Snow lists this and the copper-nickel J-178 with the 1858 patterns in his attribution guide. It's an R6 on the rarity scale with perhaps 15 struck. Snow writes "Bronzed at the mint. All are deep brown proofs, although one example is graded PR65RB by PCGS". This is it:

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  • boiler78boiler78 Posts: 3,066 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Paul- Where did you see the J179? The only one I have ever seen was an EF40 back in 1985 at the Kosoff sale. I assume it wasn't for sale?image

    Great photos! Thanks for sharing.

    Mark
  • PushkinPushkin Posts: 2,029 ✭✭✭

    Paul,

    Super photos and very, very interesting coins. For me, However, I would never buy, for myself, a high-end coin without a date - yes, I know its a pattern, just my thoughts and preference.image
  • IrishMikeIrishMike Posts: 7,737 ✭✭✭
    Mark it showed up at the FUN show Friday. I got to eyeball it up front and personal.image
  • boiler78boiler78 Posts: 3,066 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Mike-Was the owner trying to sell or just displaying the the coin? Of course I am talking about the patternimage I could never afford Stewarts 1807 quarter! That coin is amazing and as Laura would say it shouldn't even exist!
    Mark
  • IrishMikeIrishMike Posts: 7,737 ✭✭✭
    Mark, it's my understanding that Stewart owns them both and Paul was taking pictures for him.
  • boiler78boiler78 Posts: 3,066 ✭✭✭✭✭
    His coins are amazing! I wonder whats the "worst" coin he owns?image
  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,413 ✭✭✭✭✭
    PM Stewart - it was being offered to him but I'm not sure if he actually bought it.

    The cool thing Snow pointed out were the 2 centering dots on the reverse. One is in the typical position, the other above the "N" in ONE, midway between this and the top of the wreath. They are different size suggesting that one centering dot was used for one purpose, the die polished, then the other centering dot "applied". This accounts for the different apparent sizes. I'm not clear what the top dot was the center of??

    Great shots, Shylock. Both are great coins.
    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose.
  • cosmicdebriscosmicdebris Posts: 12,332 ✭✭✭
    Nice coins, let me get out my checkbook.

    Paul are you gonna be at the NYINC tomorrow?
    Bill

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    09/07/2006
  • shylockshylock Posts: 4,288 ✭✭✭
    Bill -- unfortunately I'm now paying for the time I took off last week to travel to Orlando. I'll be working both days this weekendimage

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