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I know PRO has been discussed before, but, wow......

I realize this may be beating a dead horse, but holy............. This card is so trimmed up it barely has any borders left. For the life of me, I cannot figure out how they continually get away with this. Are people really that stupid to keep buying this kind of trash?

68 Mantle

Stan Musial topped the .300 mark 17 times and won seven National League batting titles. A three-time MVP, he played in 24 All-Star Games. Probably, the greatest player who is overlooked and underappreciated.

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  • KremsKrems Posts: 347 ✭✭
    I noticed that card earlier and thought the exact same thing you did...unbelievable
  • VarghaVargha Posts: 2,392 ✭✭
    "This card is very hard to get into a PRO 9 holder."

    So that is why we had to trim it.
  • This auction has all the characteristics of a true classic.

    1. Private Feedback
    2. Hidden Bidder List
    3. The infamous PSA card to be named later.

    Feel free to add to this list at your leisure.


    Rob...

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    Collecting PSA Vintage Hockey
  • spacktrackspacktrack Posts: 1,084 ✭✭
    "PRO will grade and encapsulate all sports cards measuring 2 5/8" by 3 3/4" or less"

    Expressely stated on their website, so I guess that's why they are the leading grader of trimmed cards.

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  • YOU think i could trim a tall boy down to those specs and get a gem 10.think at all the trim room i would have image
  • I know I've seen that card on ebay before. I think there was a thread about it a few months ago. Its easy to remember a card trimmed that bad.
  • Vargha

    That Armadillo has looked better. GEEEEEZ!!!!!!!image



    Rob
    Collecting PSA Vintage Hockey
  • Rob,

    You forgot this to your list

    4.)Seller over the last 30 days has the following feedback :

    82 Positives
    5 Neutrals
    4 Negatives

    Ouch that is almost 10% neutrals or negatives does not exactly build confidence in this seller . To get that ratio of negs and neutrals you either :

    A.) Be Blatantly ripping people off

    B.) Not give a darn what any buyer thinks of you

    C.) BE a real jerk

    D.) All of the above!
    Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass... it's about learning to dance in the rain.
  • Whoa check oout this guys auctions 53 Items all graded by PRO ... He must have a real good supply of RAzor Bladesimage
    Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass... it's about learning to dance in the rain.
  • I have been watching PRO ever since they were in their infancy as a company and wished that they were never born.

    1.) They only deal with the worst possible dealers in the business- these are the guys that PSA/Beckett or SGC will not deal with and have no where else to go, AKA Gary Moser of Gem Sports Cards, etc.

    2.) Most if not all of their older/vintage cards are either trimmed, fake or repaired.

    3.) Their top graders could not pass a high school entrance exam let alone tell if a card was real or not.

    4.) They will put an 8.0 grade on anything- tell me the last time you saw a PRO 6 or 7- they do not exist.

    5.) I was set up at a show recently and I have the mis fortune of being across from them. If they graded 10 cards in three days that would be a lot. They seem to have attracted young kids with new cards due to their cheap fees, but not too many takers.

    The question is- how do they stay in business and how could they possibly make enough money to pay for their overhead or their payroll?

    Maybe 60 minutes or Dateline could do an undercover story on them and let the world know about their operation.
    Buyer and Seller of PSA graded Baseball Cards from 1900-1980.

    Check out my ebay auctions listed under seller ID: jeej
  • VarghaVargha Posts: 2,392 ✭✭
    They are scum, but I have seen a PRO "5" before.

  • They would probably give Vargha's armadillo a 9 !!!




    Please be kind to me. Even though I'm now a former postal employee, I'm still capable of snapping at any time.
  • I think the armadillo gets an 8....Come on guys there is an obvious stain!!!!!!!!!!!!
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