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I learned cool stuff about Mercs from Fairlaneman!

mdwoodsmdwoods Posts: 5,546 ✭✭✭
There are 4 types of Mercs. !916 is the Type 1. In 1917 they made a slight design change, Type 2. In 1918 they made a final, slight design change, Type 3. After 1926, some detail was lost on the Master Hub on the reverse at least, so those could be called a Type 4. Anyway, it is a good reason, to me, to have a 4 Merc type set. Of course, like many here, it doesn't take much of a reason to chase down another coin. Thanks Fairlaneman, for answering my questions. Your willingness to share your knowledge is what makes these forums like no other place for learning about coins. And there is always something new and unexpected that comes along. In this case, a question about Mercs led to much more than I had anticipated. mdwoods
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  • LucyBopLucyBop Posts: 14,001 ✭✭✭
    I've learned alot from all the Mercury Heads, they are all loveable!
    imageBe Bop A Lula!!
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    "I want a real cool Kitty from Hepcat City, to stay in step with me" - Bill Carter
  • fcloudfcloud Posts: 12,133 ✭✭✭✭
    I, too, have learned from Ken! He has helped me with much information. He had a post in the PCGS Set Registy Forum with a 1921 that was not real. That coin looked great, but it is not real.

    Kudos to Ken.

    Tony

    President, Racine Numismatic Society 2013-2014; Variety Resource Dimes; See 6/8/12 CDN for my article on Winged Liberty Dimes; Ebay

  • MrKelsoMrKelso Posts: 2,907 ✭✭✭


    << <i>There are 4 types of Mercs. !916 is the Type 1. In 1917 they made a slight design change, Type 2. In 1918 they made a final, slight design change, Type 3. After 1926, some detail was lost on the Master Hub on the reverse at least, so those could be called a Type 4. Anyway, it is a good reason, to me, to have a 4 Merc type set. Of course, like many here, it doesn't take much of a reason to chase down another coin. Thanks Fairlaneman, for answering my questions. Your willingness to share your knowledge is what makes these forums like no other place for learning about coins. And there is always something new and unexpected that comes along. In this case, a question about Mercs led to much more than I had anticipated. mdwoods >>



    I seem to remember something about the differences being with the initials AW for Adolf Weinman being added later. is this correct? Edited to correct name


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  • mdwoodsmdwoods Posts: 5,546 ✭✭✭
    I seem to remember something about the differences being with the initials AW for Alexander Weinman being added later. is this correct?

    Hopefully Ken can answer this question, as I cannot.image
    National Register Of Big Trees

    We'll use our hands and hearts and if we must we'll use our heads.
  • wingedlibertywingedliberty Posts: 4,805 ✭✭✭
    Its actually Adolph A. Weinmann and not Alexander. , There is also an exceedingly rare 1916 pattern.
    Welcome to the fold!!


    Brian.
  • MrKelsoMrKelso Posts: 2,907 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Its actually Adolph A. Weinmann and not Alexander. , There is also an exceedingly rare 1916 pattern.
    Welcome to the fold!!


    Brian. >>



    I stand corrected. I knew there was a very rare pattern regarding his initials but it has been many years since i read anything about the series. I am however going to be collecting this coin again starting soon.



    "The silver is mine and the gold is mine,' declares the LORD GOD Almighty."
  • FairlanemanFairlaneman Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭✭
    OK. I am embarassed but will jump in here and say the changes that made the Type of 17 and Type of 18 Dime were in the hair design and the Wing. Minor changes that made those details strike up a little better. Somewhere over on the Registry board there was a thread about this a few months back. Also, here is a plug for David Lange, you can read all about these changes in The Guide to Mercury Dimes. As others have said a Must Book for a Merc Collector.

    Thanks Mark for the Kudo's. But just like many others on these boards I just like to give out knowledge if it is known. Many others are Exactly the same way. image Just one Cool place to be Most of the time.

    Ken
  • mdwoodsmdwoods Posts: 5,546 ✭✭✭
    The Guide to Mercury Dimes. As others have said a Must Book for a Merc Collector.

    Thanks Ken. I have an autographed copy of David's book on Lincoln cents which I really like. I always like to increase my library of coin books. mdwoods
    National Register Of Big Trees

    We'll use our hands and hearts and if we must we'll use our heads.
  • MrKelsoMrKelso Posts: 2,907 ✭✭✭
    Thanks Ken i will put that book on my list.


    "The silver is mine and the gold is mine,' declares the LORD GOD Almighty."
  • Here are a couple of patterns:without initials

    with initials

    image
  • wingedlibertywingedliberty Posts: 4,805 ✭✭✭
    Nice pattern. Thanks for sharing.


    Brian.
  • Thanks for the fascinating information, md and fairlaneman. I have a complete set of uncirc. mercs, except for the 1916-D, and all this time I didn't know
    this about them.
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  • FairlanemanFairlaneman Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Richbeat thanks for the photo. In the beginning all 1916 Mercs were looked at trying to find one that had escaped other collectors eyes. Besides the lack of the AW the other dead give aways is the size and placment of the bust and the date being completely under her neck. Still to this day look at many 16's just in hope that luck will shine upon myself. Fat chance ...Huh ?

    Ken
  • wingedlibertywingedliberty Posts: 4,805 ✭✭✭
    You're in good company, I know how you feel, I am still trying to cherry
    at 45 in full bands. We can still dream? right?

    Brian.
  • Yup, I learned a lot from Fairlaneman too! Thanks for being generous with your knowledge and experience Ken.
  • jomjom Posts: 3,441 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hey Fairlane: I though the 1917 issue used both types. In fact, I recall owning a type 2 1917-D at one point. 1918's changes made for that issue having two types also as I recall. Or am I mixed up with the dates here? Didn't Lange talk about this in the book?

    Just wondering.

    jom
  • Fairlaneman,

    Keep looking, stranger things have happened! The thrill of the hunt is half of the fun. As for the pattern pic I posted without initials, I'd like to know who had it and scratched up the reverse. image
  • Wait, there's cool stuff about Mercs? I thought only Lincolns and Buffalos had cool stuff. image

    Why do I enjoy bashing Mercs so much?
  • FairlanemanFairlaneman Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Jom the 17's for sure. I believe the change was made in mid year. Also it seems to me that more of the FB coins were the type of 17 for the date. The type of 18 all I have seen is just it and no type of 17's. Actually on this one I really do not look real hard at them, maybe more attention is needed. Yes indeed Mr Lange has this in the book also. There was a book that was put out in the mid 80's that had reference to this also which got me to looking at them.

    Masta, I guess if you are slaming the coin it just can't reply to your statements and if you are slaming the Merc Collectors, well We are just easy going folks and take it in the vain of Good Fun. image

    Ken

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