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Why did a 1981 ty2 pr70 just sell for over 7g's ?

Am i missing something? Why are all the coins at FUN overpriced?

Are people just being stupid? or did they put something in the kool-aid.

michelle

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  • coppercoinscoppercoins Posts: 6,084 ✭✭✭
    Umm...no, dunno, yeah, probably.

    I doubt these people will see a return on investments priced as high as most of what I saw unless they are willing to hold onto the coins for at least another 50 years.
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  • Cam40Cam40 Posts: 8,146
    `81 clear-S are considered scarce if not rare.In 70 is a top pop.What is the pop for a PF70 type2 `81 SBA?
  • gmarguligmarguli Posts: 2,225 ✭✭
    It's a Pop 0 coin according to the pop report. I don't kow why it is not listed. It sold for over 7G because some people are incredibly stupid and have more money than brains.
  • psxchellypsxchelly Posts: 568 ✭✭


    << <i>`81 clear-S are considered scarce if not rare.In 70 is a top pop >>



    okay yes your right, i know they are sorta scarce My i got my type 2 proof set in March '02 for 90$... that coin is not worth 7g's, and the guy will never get his money back.

    An entire pcgs 1981 type 2 proof set sold on ebay for around 3 grand about 2 months ago and that was pricey.

    I love moderns... but sheesh this is totally ridiculous.
  • DracoDraco Posts: 512
    Maybe it goes like this. . .

    Some idiot (me) moves his mouse over to the "bid now" button. At the time he/she commands his finger to push the mouse button, the bid is at a reasonable level, however. . .some other idiot in Florida bids some rediculous amount of money and the idiot in Pennsylvania's web browser updates the amount to this new and insame amout just as his/her finger presses the mouse button. . . .

    Ok, time to hide from the wife. . .


    and not, it wasn't me who paid that insane amount for the 1981, but the event I describe above has happened to me seven times now and thankfully, someone in Florida is more of an idiot than I am.
  • michaelmichael Posts: 9,524 ✭✭
    lots of cash out there

    lots of people out there also with no knowledge of coins or collecting or numismatics

    lots of heat and hot hot desire

    but i will not be one of the buyers!!!!


    i guess i have seen this before many times



    maybe i am wrong and this is the new wave of the future

    all i can do is stand at the sides in the backround and shake my head

    i guess time for me to move onto something other than lincoln cents

    i am sorry i didnot buy all those pcgs lincoln red pop tops and dcam/cam/non cam proof 69/70 lincolns 2 years ago!!

    my mistake i guess i in fact do not understand nor know anything about coins or the market!

    such is life

    and best wishes to all the buyers they gots the money and know more than me!!!!

    sincerely michael
  • PlacidPlacid Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭
    PR70 is a very rare grade. Only buy the best.
    LoL
  • Cam40Cam40 Posts: 8,146
    ....some people are incredibly stupid and have more money than brains.
    You see alot of that in this hobby.image
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Am i missing something? Why are all the coins at FUN overpriced? >>



    Not all of them. I just scored a nice MS64 RB 1868 Two Cent Piece dirt screaming cheap.image I guess all the money was gone after the Lincolns!

    Russ, NCNE

  • michaelmichael Posts: 9,524 ✭✭
    yes i am sure proof 70 is a rare grade but i wonder waht the coin is worth if broken out of its respective holder?

    sincerely michael
  • gmarguligmarguli Posts: 2,225 ✭✭
    $30
  • Didn't David Hall just announce that PCGS standards for PR70 were being loosened a little?

    If this is the case, this PR70 coin will probably have some company soon in the pop reports, especially if the coin will bring well into four figures.

    There is so much heat in this hobby right now. It seems like there is a frenzy for stuff that has questionable rarity. I hope that the mad money works its way into the stuff that I already own; I'd sell it in a heartbeat then call it a day.
  • FrattLawFrattLaw Posts: 3,290 ✭✭
    Edited due to my stupidity!

    Sorry thought you guys were talking about SBAs.

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  • gmarguligmarguli Posts: 2,225 ✭✭
    They bid at $32.
  • orevilleoreville Posts: 11,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I still cannot tell the difference between a PR68............69.................and 70.

    I barely can tell the difference between a 67 and 68 in proof.

    I just don't know. image
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  • PlacidPlacid Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭
    It's only 750,000x face value image
  • good point oreville. even the difference between the type 1 and type 2 is extremely difficult to tell
    it's really no big deal, and in any event it is a ugly coin anyway
  • relayerrelayer Posts: 10,570

    It's a Registry thang
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  • DCAMFranklinDCAMFranklin Posts: 2,862 ✭✭
    I think there are crowds and crowds of dealers up in the hospitality suites laughing their butts off at the silly handful of collectors that have bid these outragous prices for these coins!

    Of course on Monday, that will all go back to their respective shops and write lengthy articles for their newsletters and websites proclaiming a new MONSTER bull market in coins. All the while laughing under their breath waiting for the first bit of financial downturn that will force those "big spender" collectors to sell those coins for 30% of the purchase prices. I sure won't buy into the hype we will be seeing on Monday! image
  • FrattLawFrattLaw Posts: 3,290 ✭✭
    Edited due to my stupidity ! -- Thanks Numish!

  • Absolutely surreal.

    Of course, it still looks like a bargain compared to the spotty 1963 PR70 Lincoln that realized $39K.

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  • TheNumishTheNumish Posts: 1,628 ✭✭
    Michael,
    I think you are thinking it's a Dollar when in fact it's a Lincoln Cent.
  • the prices were high on the coins but what is cash worth in the bank
    or even in long term interest
    or better yet in the stock market
  • PlacidPlacid Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭


    << <i>the prices were high on the coins but what is cash worth in the bank
    or even in long term interest
    or better yet in the stock market >>



    Coins are a safe investment?

  • << the prices were high on the coins but what is cash worth in the bank
    or even in long term interest
    or better yet in the stock market >>



    Coins are a safe investment?


    if thats a question
    i look at it like this way you might some day with a coin
    but you know you'll never break even with interest
    i think that's the feelings out their today
  • OuthaulOuthaul Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭✭✭
    oldcameoproofsguy "Didn't David Hall just announce that PCGS standards for PR70 were being loosened a little? If this is the case, this PR70 coin will probably have some company soon in the pop reports, especially if the coin will bring well into four figures"

    This is precisely why I don't play the "Low-Pop" game. It's a sucker's bet. Besides, I don't think there is one single modern out there worth seven large, let alone four figs! Just my opinion...flame away!image

    Cheers,

    Bob
  • PlacidPlacid Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭


    << <i><< the prices were high on the coins but what is cash worth in the bank
    or even in long term interest
    or better yet in the stock market >>



    Coins are a safe investment?


    if thats a question
    i look at it like this way you might some day with a coin
    but you know you'll never break even with interest
    i think that's the feelings out their today >>



    I am going to withdraw all my retirement money from the bank today and buy coins with it.
    Thanks for the advice.
  • you look around where is the money going land housing coins
    gold silver any where their is a safety
    on you retirement money how much would be left ??????????????
    at this point

  • << << the prices were high on the coins but what is cash worth in the bank
    or even in long term interest
    or better yet in the stock market >>



    Coins are a safe investment?


    if thats a question
    i look at it like this way you might some day with a coin
    but you know you'll never break even with interest
    i think that's the feelings out their today >>



    I am going to withdraw all my retirement money from the bank today and buy coins with it.
    Thanks for the advice.

    you look around where is the money going land housing coins
    gold silver any where their is a safety
    on you retirement money how much would be left ??????????????
    at this point

    what now your done talking trash
    i guess i understand your doing real well in your retirement
    if you do reply which i don't think you will
    please list your investment for all to see
    and check
  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,149 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>It's a Registry thang >>

    Which proves that it is a great capitalistic idea for PCGS- and that is the basis of an article I'm writing image
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  • Because he has the money and he wants it!
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  • meos1meos1 Posts: 1,135
    Nice try only one problem.... Can't invoke a method of [OnClick] when the mouse is moving. Must be stationary. Now if we were using the [OnMouseOver] then.....


    Just pulling your chain, besides, there are no coins in the modern series that are worth 7Gs. Just people who value them at 7Gs.

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  • Then I guess we have to go back and look at what they are worth to the Govt, face value!
    You can fool man but you can't fool God! He knows why you do what you do!
  • so the sales didn't happen in your mind and were all losing it
    it's you the one that is right
    ok
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,656 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Moderns have historically been inexpensive because there has been almost
    no demand. The supply of many of these has always been small because no
    body bothered to set them aside or they were made in small numbers, but it
    wasn't widely known because there was so very little demand. The problem
    was not a lack of face value since they have exactly the same denominations
    as the older coins. It never was that they are made of base metals since some
    of the high priced classics are made of the exact same metals and the other
    classics generally have no more than a few dollars worth of silver in them. Now
    there are people looking to collect these coins and are finding some are elusive.
    One should remember that the 81-S type 2 cent wholesales at more than $50.
    While I've never seen one with a shot at MS-70 so haven't a clue how hard it is
    to find, there are those who've expended some effort in trying to obtain one. If
    they bid it up higher than what I think it's worth then I'm likely to question my
    estimation of it's value rather than the relative value of the purchaser's money.
    Tempus fugit.

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