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Wow 1968 common $158.50

Wow a 11 pop 1968 PSA 8 Woody Fryman just sold on ebay for 158.50.
Hooray for the seller. I think this is a great example of three guys wanting the same card. I was going to upgrade my set. The Fryman is one of the 5 cards I need yet to be complete in eight or better. I pdid push the price on this out of curiosity. The high bidder appears to be new to the 68's. I will wait for the next one.image


Dave
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  • mcastaldimcastaldi Posts: 1,235 ✭✭✭
    Here's one for you. . .

    Ungraded 1975 Manny Mota - not quite NM/MT. . .

    Mike
    So full of action, my name should be a verb.
  • StumpStump Posts: 927
    I dont think that will grade eight as the top to bottom is bad. Ok you win with that one. At least the Fryman was already graded.

    Dave
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  • FBFB Posts: 1,684 ✭✭
    Just goes to prove...

    There is STILL more money than brains out there sometimes!image
    Frank Bakka
    Sets - 1970, 1971 and 1972
    Always looking for 1972 O-PEE-CHEE Baseball in PSA 9 or 10!

    lynnfrank@earthlink.net
    outerbankyank on eBay!
  • ejguruejguru Posts: 618 ✭✭✭
    image
    Wow....
    Where was this buyer a few months back when everyone was dumping their PSA 8 dupes (of medium low pops)? For once I was able to avoid bidding that one up...
    "...life is but a dream."

    Used to working on HOF SS Baseballs--Now just '67 Sox Stickers and anything Boston related.
  • gaspipe26gaspipe26 Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭
    Damn $20.50 for an OC 1975 Mota. I'll sell as many as you want , centered to boot for a buck. Frank your right , more money than brains.
  • PlayBallPlayBall Posts: 463 ✭✭✭
    I find it amusing that, if this card was purchased by a board member for a set their collecting, we'd be saying congratulations on a great addition! Since it is not, we say more money than brains. Interesting double-standard.

    I'll make sure to alert everyone of my stupid purchases (of which there are many), so I don't get hazed on the board.image

    Bernie
    Bernie Carlen



    Currently collecting.....your guess is as good as mine.
  • StumpStump Posts: 927
    I am not sure anybody would say great addition to the 20.50 off centered unslabbed 75 Mota. Not only that the last time I checked we were still in the USA and freedom of speech was allowed.image

    Dave
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  • PlayBallPlayBall Posts: 463 ✭✭✭
    Dave,

    My comment was just a general statement, tilted more toward the Fryman card. I am very appreciative of the support I see amongst board members, and I hope it always continues. You exercise your right, I'll exercise mine. Everything's good.

    Bernie
    Bernie Carlen



    Currently collecting.....your guess is as good as mine.
  • StumpStump Posts: 927
    Bernie Ok alls well Thanks image

    Dave
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  • Thanks PlayBall.

    I feel a lot better about paying some of the high prices I have paid to try and complete my sets. I once bought a 1959 PSA 8 Rip Repulski on eBay for over $200 because it was the last dodger I needed in PSA 8 or better. I received an email from someone telling my I was nuts and that this card comes up on eBay all the time. My response was "You must be an investor and not a collector".

    Maybe I am nuts, but that's probably why I like this hobby. It allows me to spend my money on a vice that won't get me arrested.
    Bill Roberts


  • << <i>Here's one for you. . .

    Ungraded 1975 Manny Mota - not quite NM/MT. . .

    Mike >>



    That buyer is nuts, he's also paid $15.50 for a 1972 George Foster in EX condition!
    image
  • srs1asrs1a Posts: 398
    Hey Stump. ejguru, FB, guru --

    What are your opinions on the toughest cards from the '68 set?

    I know I am no where as far as along as you guys..and am interested in your experiences. I'm trying to get excited about chasing about 500 more commons, but having troubles!

    My votes are for #5 and #152...not sure about 9's but finding good 8's was tough for me.

    Scott
    Dr S. of the Dead Donkeys MC
  • StumpStump Posts: 927
    Scott My set is 100 percent now and I had a great time chasing. In fact I am still chasing nines with a few upgrades needed. One is the Fryman. I have this card in seven but it has eluded me in eight or better. The toughest in eight in my opinion are Williams #172
    Johnson 441 Ellis 453. These are all low pops with most of the eights in the top ten sets. Up till a month ago the Williams card had a pop of 4 eights and 1 nine. The Johnson also had a pop of 4 but I have not checked this out lately. Another card that was tough was the Selma 556. I needed it for a long time. I bought a SGC 92 and had it reslabbed and got a nine back then I landed one of the two tens. I will put the nine up for sale in about a month. The five card is also tough I have a 9OC right now but I just sent in a nice SGC92 and hope to get at least a eight. Good luck with your set and if I can be any help let me know. EJguru is also a great guy to deal with and has alot of knowledge on the 68's. We have bumped heads on ebay quite often and still have remained civil to each other. He is top notch on this board and a great ally to have.

    Dave
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  • StumpStump Posts: 927
    Scott

    After reviewing my notes a couple other come to mind.
    96- Senators rookies tough card to find centered I think because its rookies
    193- Jack Hamilton last I checked pop was 3 for eights
    199- A's rookies same as above centering
    238- Tom Satriano low pop
    246-Fritz Peterson low pop yankee
    282-Rick Monday low pop
    296-Byron Browne way tough to find. 4 8's 1-9 1-10 I have the ten
    498- Bill Bryan centering problems


    Dave
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  • VirtualizardVirtualizard Posts: 1,936 ✭✭
    Dave,

    Great set to complete. I haven't attempted to start this one yet, and after looking at the pop report, I'm not sure I want to any time soon.

    I haven't checked your set on the registry, but do you have every card in 8 or better? That's some accomplishment with those pops.

    In case anyone's interested, I checked the pops on the cards mentioned and here are the current totals:

    96-Senators rookies: 7-8s, 3-9s, 0-10s, 16 Total Graded

    172-Walt Williams: 8-8s, 2-9s, 0-10s, 15 Total Graded

    193-Jack Hamilton: 5-8s, 2-9s, 0-10s, 10 Total Graded

    199-A's rookies: 11-8s, 2-9s, 1-10, 24 Total Graded

    238-Tom Satriano: 9-8s, 2-9s, 0-10s, 37 Total Graded

    246-Fritz Peterson: 28-8s, 3-9s, 0-10s, 37 Total Graded

    282-Rick Monday: 12-8s, 1-9, 0-10s, 17 Total Graded

    296-Byron Browne: 7-8s, 5-9s, 1-10, 19 Total Graded

    441-Alex Johnson: 4-8s, 1-9, 0-10s, 9 Total Graded

    453-Sammy Ellis: 6-8s, 0-9s, 0-10s, 16 Total Graded

    498-Bill Bryan: 7-8s, 3-9s, 1-10, 16 Total Graded

    556-Dick Selma: 7-8s, 4-9s, 2-10s, 18 Total Graded

    JEB.
  • StumpStump Posts: 927
    Jeb

    Thanks for the kind words. I still need a few to upgrade.
    2- have in 7
    5- have in 9oc with a SGC-92 into PSA
    9- have in 6 with a SGC-92 into PSA (A real screamer 9???)
    10- have in seven
    112-have in seven
    437- have in seven

    If I dont get these on ebay I hope to finish this at the national. I look all the time and just missed a Fryman 9 from Natex.

    Dave
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  • mcastaldimcastaldi Posts: 1,235 ✭✭✭
    And if there was any doubt that the guy overpaid for the 75T ungraded and OC Manny Mota, check this out -
    75T Mota PSA9 NQ

    Mike
    So full of action, my name should be a verb.
  • Dave,

    I don't know a lot about this set ('68 Topps), but I just looked through a bunch of my raw cards and centering does seem to be a major problem. I think this is the first time I've looked at these cards since I've been collecting PSA graded cards. I sold a beautifully centered raw #480 Manager's Dream with sharp corners about 2 years ago. I wish I had kept that one. If I remember correctly, it would have been a PSA 9 easily. I have two Frymans - both about 80/20 L to R. I doubt I'll be submitting many of my raw cards when I start this set. Is this your experience? Have you submitted a lot of cards yourself?

    JEB.
  • ejguruejguru Posts: 618 ✭✭✭
    Dave: Thanks for the gracious words. It's been fun working behind your wake towards the top. I fully concur with your analysis of the '68 sets' toughest cards.

    Jack Hamilton and Alex Johnson have been tough to find even in NM condition, let alone PSA 8 level. I may have an in on Ellis--submitting four next special. If the G.O.D. is not on duty, I could get 2-3 8's, although probably just jinxed myself. Finally, the leader cards that are low pops (relatively low for HOF leader cards) always get attention from bidders, set builders or not. I am still about 100 cards away from an all-8 set, so I am still hunting too.

    Good luck, and check out my #2 set if interested in trading...

    Happy Holidays to all, and looking forward to A.C...

    EJ
    "...life is but a dream."

    Used to working on HOF SS Baseballs--Now just '67 Sox Stickers and anything Boston related.
  • sjjs28sjjs28 Posts: 474 ✭✭✭✭
    First time venturing out into Message Board Land....
    I've been a lurker - reading and staying informed and reading some more.....

    Thought I would reply to this 1968 thread to give anyone that's interested a heads up to a couple cards that I will be listing on ebay very shortly .... (if I can ever get my images to load with the god-awfully slow dial-up connection) .... I will be offering two 1968 PSA 9's of rather low pop values very shortly - #464 Don McMahon (pop 6) and #500 Frank Robinson (pop 15) ....

    I concur with the centering discussion ....
    I have about 15 8's that are sure 9's except for reverse centering.

    I want to participate in the discussions as appropriate and would love to meet fellow card lovers - I attend Ft. Washington Regularly and will be dipping my toes in the atlantic at Atlantic City ....

    My loves are the 1967 set (approx. 70% completed - 8.34 Avg. PSA grade) and the 1965 set (not registered yet - taking a back seat to the 67) - Already have 50% of the high series in PSA 9 and PSA 8.

    Many 1967's to trade.
    Many 1968's to sell
    Steve Saldutti
    sjjs28@comcast.net
    Collector of 1964 Topps Stand Ups, 1965 Embossed, 1968 Topps Game and 1969 Topps Decals
    Registered Sets: 1964 Stand Ups, 1965 Embossed, 1968 Topps Game, 1969 Topps Decals
  • StumpStump Posts: 927
    EJ Good call on the leaders I forgot about them they are tough as nails. Also I will take a look at your #2(wow that dont sound good) and see if I have needs.

    Jeb nice work on the pop reports some increases since I last looked. I did submit quite a few myself . Got lots of eights and a few nines and even two very low pop tens. I got the one and only 259 Boyer nine that I traded with Ron (Finest 1). He made me an offer I could not refuse.

    sjjs28 I look forward to the cards up on ebay. You will see me on both as the 464 has been a bugger for me. Good luck with the 67 set it is a gorgous set. I have it slated for 2004. I need to finish my 69 set(66%) and my 75 set(35%) or get them close. I will upgrade my 68 set for a while. I have my sights on number two. With the cards I hace enroute I will be at 8.47 in about three weeks. I was trying for 8.75 but I think now I will try for the elusive 9.00 or better.

    Dave
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  • FBFB Posts: 1,684 ✭✭
    Dave, EJ,

    I'm glad that you two took care of Scott's question on the toughest cards in the 68 set. That's not one where I've really concentrated yet - so my knowledge is very limited.

    And Playball - you're right. I've noticed it too... When someone is well liked on the boards - its always a "nice addition" or "cunning strategy". And if they're not liked or not on the boards - they're "freakin idiots!".

    But, keep in mind if a board member won that Fryman or Mota, you might see "nice job!" posted, but in the background, the undercurrent would still be "idiot!". Unless of course we got an answer on the boards as to what drove the board member to this idiocy!!image
    Frank Bakka
    Sets - 1970, 1971 and 1972
    Always looking for 1972 O-PEE-CHEE Baseball in PSA 9 or 10!

    lynnfrank@earthlink.net
    outerbankyank on eBay!
  • Thank-you guys!

    In the back of my mind, I was wondering if there were cards that were extremely tough to find...but had "reasonable" pops. Reasons for this might be a "collision" of various sorts of collectors on a specific card -- for example, card #3 NL RBI Leaders with Cepeda, Clemente and Aaron. Some folks collect leader cards, some folks collect Aaron cards, some folks collect Clemente cards and some folks collect '68's (I am guilty of all 4 charges)...add to this the centering issues on the leaders and I thought that this one might be a bear.


    thanks again!

    Scott
    Dr S. of the Dead Donkeys MC
  • StumpStump Posts: 927
    Scott you are absolutly right on the crossover collectors on the leader cards. I would think though that this is the case in most years that have leaders. Clemente is very popular and the clemente collectors will scoop these up. You also have to watch the Yankee and Met fans as they also can impact a pop on a card. That is why I mentioned the Peterson in 1968. It seems to be popular because he is a Yankee and I think people are interested in his love life. I think you are on the right track in your thinking.


    Dave
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