Is this toning worth a premium?

Spinynorman

From a 63D roll that looks like it has been opened.

FC57Coins

Personally I don't care for that speckly toning, though I have a few pieces that have it. I think it makes it hard to judge the overall design, specially on smaller coins.

Frank

nwcs

How lustrous is it? If it is very lustrous so that the color is electrified, then this would be a small premium. Otherwise I would consider it neutral.

Fairlaneman

Like that reverse, plus it looks to have a darn good strike. Will admit the tone on the obverse does not do much for the coin.

Premium, don't know as they are not collected by myself.

Ken

Spinynorman

It doesn't do anything for me either, Frank, but I thought I should check to see if I'm not alone.

relayer

I don't normally appreciate splochy toned dimes, but I like the reverse one.

Spinynorman

There is no cartwheel on the end coins, nwcs. The colors stand out a bit more under a strong light though.

greghansen

Not to me.

dorkkarl

extremely common roll toning - no prem.

K S

Rotts

Your right that is terrible.Send it to me for posting the pic. Rotts

berrydingle

The nicely toned coins are inside that roll, very seldom to end peices look any good

gmarguli

The reverse looks to have nice colorful toning. It would command a premium (not monster, but a nice premium). It would also depend on the grade. You're not going to get much of a premium if the coin is MS63, but if it is MS66 then you'll get a much bigger premium.

Twowood

I think we should get a discount for the ugly things...I don't care for toned coins. Twowood

dorkkarl

btw, end-of-roll toning is awfully easy to "duplicate" ("artificially" - by the def'n most use), & can be done to very deceptively hide over-dips or severe cleanings (ie overly "white" coins). you can try it yourself at home. get 3 heavily cleaned "white" silver dollars, go buy some very cheap construction paper, cut out two circles about the same size or a little larger than a dollar, make a "sandwich" of a dollar, paper, dollar, paper, dollar, then heat up the "sandwich" to a high-temp (say, on the stove).

caution: the paper can catch fire - be careful !!!

beware: the bottom dollar (in contact w/ the heating surface) must be a throw-away coin, the middle 1 will get the "end-of-roll" toning, the top 1 will generally be unaffected, or may tone a little on the down side (in contact w/ the paper). in fact, i found that the top coin can take on rather beautiful toning - use it twice, switching sides the 2d time.

i was told this old trick many years ago. haven't messed w/ it in a while, but have done the experiment myself, & i assure you, it can be extremely deceptive. for those of you wanting to nail coin doctors, try this 1 out a few times, then look at a bunch of slabed coins w/ identical toning, & tell me if you still think pcgs can screen out the majority of "professionally" a-t'd coins.

K S