Franklin Question!!!

Mike921

I have never bought a Franklin before but decided to spend a few dollars on a proof one here recently. The seller that sold it said it was spotless but it's not. His digital images were perfectly adjusted to hide all this. It's nice and everything but has a couple of flaws.


Obverse

Reverse

The first is the huge fingerprint right behind his head, mark on cheek.

The question is why the nick on the reverse has a small blueish circle around it? Is it normal for the surfaces on a proof Franklin to look like sand paper when looking at it under 16x magnification?

How would I go about removing the finger print on the obverse without causing the spot on the reverse to get worse?

NumisEd

Hi Mike. Fortunately you are not out more than $3 or $4.........at least I hope not. You could do what most bullion traders do with this type of bullion material......melt it down and make a nice spoon or two.

LucyBop

I don't know what that spot is, hard to say that a dip would make it worse... A quick dip may remove the finger print..... What did you pay for this......

LucyBop

Yeah right! Melt it down....... Many of the Franklins in the Proof issues had milk spots.... But I'm not sure what yours is.....

Mike921

I paid $6.50 for it.

Mike921

I just thought the proof ones looked really nice and wanted one. Thats all seller was a little misleading. Do need more spoons though......

LucyBop

Thats not a bad price......... I search thru many raw proofs and many proof sets, It isn't easy to find flawless ones.........

Bulldog

Milk Spots can be good!

BD

Mike921

So the milk spot will have a blue circle around it?

Mike921

Looks more like a boil!!!! Does this mark really hurt the grade or is it gradable??

LucyBop

I think it will hurt the grade..... I cant tell from the scan, but it could knock it to a pr65....maybe a pr66.... Then this also depends how the graders are feeling on any given day....

LucyBop

AND I'M MAD AT YOU! YOUR REDSKINS WHIPPED MY COWBOYZ!

Mike921

Oh the graders are being factored in now huh. Wonder if you could get a different grade if you did the walk through service and sent in someone like ummm... Charles Manson with my submission...

LucyBop

Well Lucy did see some of em face to face when I submitted my 56 and 63 which came back pr68DCAM.

Mike921

oh you still mad I got over mine from Thanksgiving much quicker. about 30 min. with the 151!!!!!! Just kidding

They will be alright you just need to get in there and tell them what the hell they are doing wrong, I mean you watch the films right???

NumisEd

My friend, if you try to get this thing in a holder, your $6.50 investment will turn into a $40 mistake. DON'T do it! You got a pretty good deal. I was just kidding about the $3 or $4. Lucy, you sure do know your Franklin halves. Do you collect ANY other series?

Mike921

hmmm well they are over there in Cal. and I'm in VA. and I am not sure where charles is or if he is.......

Mike921

Na, I'm not if it would have been spotless like the seller said then yea but I guess I will put it up on ebay raw just like I got it.

LucyBop

Yep! Mint State Roosies! I have a fledgling Registry set but I have every issue pulled from original mint sets that I need to get graded. I also collect Winged Libertys, Proof Kennedys, Modern Commem Dollars.... And I have 5 of the big bald guy.. Proof IKes!!!

NumisEd

Hey, maybe you are a cool kitty from hepcat city afterall. I don't really like any of those modern series (nor slabs), but I do like reading your opinions on the forum and the fact that you have a diversified collection. As time goes on, I would like some of you modern collectors to please explain what a "registry set" is. Ed

Mike921

Hey I took a tissue and and removed that spot and the fingerprint With no traces left behind...

LucyBop

hmmmmm.... watch that coin carefully to see if any haze develops in the next week or so...

Mike921

Alright, would that be from me or someone else?

Sorry just never messed with Proof Franklins before.

LucyBop

I'm hoping it won't be from you, but there could be a reaction on the coins surface after being wiped with a tissue.....

Mike921

Ok, thanks but hell the spot is gone so for 6 dollars it was worth it...