What is Windexing???
banknote1
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I read some of the back and forth between a couple of members about a windexed coin being sold!? Could someone explain this, and what it does to a coin?? Thanks......
Banned for Life from The Evil Empire™!
Looking for Nationals, Large VF to AU type, 1928 Gold, and WWII Emergency notes. Also a few nice Buffalo Nickels and Morgan Dollars.
Monty...
Looking for Nationals, Large VF to AU type, 1928 Gold, and WWII Emergency notes. Also a few nice Buffalo Nickels and Morgan Dollars.
Monty...
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In God We Trust.... all others pay in Gold and Silver!
Russ, NCNE
We'll use our hands and hearts and if we must we'll use our heads.
I swore I'd leave our friend alone, and I will but for this:
Don, you see what faith others have in you. I share the same. Let me tell you why he knew the coin had been windexed. Many years ago he taught me what windexing is:
Take a penny and put it right in front of a bottle of windex. Hit the trigger a few times..hard, then rinse the coin in hot water and then blow dry it with a hair dryer.
Try it, it works. It will not take of milk spots or other hard to remove material, but it does remove haze, toning etc. It also does not leave the tell tale sign like dipping on copper.
The trick is to sell the coin or slab before it turns.
I would suggest that every buyer of high end coins experiment with cheap versions and the cleaning "tricks" people use. You'll soon learn to recognize the sublte changes in the coin and the consistent pattern a certain technique leaves.
Bottomline if a coin is in a holder you should not be responsible for it's deteriorization. The grading service should. I know PCGS will make this right. Most likely NGC as well.
Stick around Don!
Ike Specialist
Finest Toned Ike I've Ever Seen, been looking since 1986
New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.
It's been so long since I did that. I normally don't fool with copper because of it turning.
The look is a slightly different than before the coin was windexed. Next show you go to spend a few bucks on some 1960's proof cents and try it. You'll see the difference, albiet very slight.
There is no way to describe it. The few bucks you spend will save you many times over.
Wish I had a better answer.
Ike Specialist
Finest Toned Ike I've Ever Seen, been looking since 1986
Looking for Nationals, Large VF to AU type, 1928 Gold, and WWII Emergency notes. Also a few nice Buffalo Nickels and Morgan Dollars.
Monty...
beware!
K S
gazing into my crystal ball i see coins in the future............
gazing into my crystal ball i see coin doctors hangin' from yardarms!!!!!
al h.
roadrunner
BTW - Threads like this always make me remember how the "good ole days" really were.
and it sets us apart from practitioners and consultants. Gregor
President, Racine Numismatic Society 2013-2014; Variety Resource Dimes; See 6/8/12 CDN for my article on Winged Liberty Dimes; Ebay
I really still don't see how a collector would be expected to catch a trick that was missed by both a repected grading firm and a professional auction company.
Proper cleaning is ok. I have several silver proof halves in my personal set that I have dipped prior to slabbing. If done correctly on silver, there is no long term problem. Wouldn't want to do it repeatedly.
Ike Specialist
Finest Toned Ike I've Ever Seen, been looking since 1986
I'd say most are aware of it. And there will always be a few who will try it. Unfortunately, no way to weed that element out. Still, learning the markers of a doctoring can make a big financial difference down the road. It's funny, and scary, that the more I learn the more I agree with dorkkarl about mastering numismatics independently of grading services and using them as just another opinion and environmental protection holder.
Neil
<< <i>are the doctors picking up on this stuff, or is it safe to assume they already know this and much, much more >>
oh, they know.
they know.
K S
Thanks for the tip on using proof cents. I don't have any on hand that are cruddy enough to ruin, but I'll try it as soon as I do.