Barber dime grade - edited to add reverse

Casey

Do you think this makes it to mint state, or AU?






Casey

stman

What's this a coin thread on the coin board? I don't feel it is mintstate.

ARCO

hard to tell for sure. Looks like possibly some rub on the forhead hair. Nice details though.

Tyler

wingedliberty

Casey:
Its an MS61 obverse.


Brian.

Placid

Looks au probably to me. There seems to be some "dirt" maybe in the A of states. The rim around the date area looks odd.
Maybe the coin was dipped at some time.

wingedliberty

Casey:
Nice reverse also, I would still hold to my original grade of MS61 , and as a blended final
grade with the reverse.


Happy holidays,
Brian.

stman

Casey, does the scan look just like the coin, as far as details?
If so I would not call it mintstate. Actually I just wanted to bump this to the top of all the other B.S.

Casey

I don't own it yet and have not seen it in person. Trying to decide whether to purchase or not.

stman

Must be a raw coin advertised as unc? Come on now details.

Dog97

The rub on the forehead hair could be from rubbing other coins in a roll. See the different color in the field right in front of Liberty as compared to ther color around the protected areas of the devices? That's wear. The flow lines are gone so it reflects the scanner light different and makes it a different color. The dingy tint brown tint is from where it was dipped and the dark areas by the date and the rev are where it used to have dark tone. The funny looking area on the rim by the date are small flashes of metal from where the cookie cutter sheared the planchet from the coil and didn't make a clean cut. I'd say the grade is 58.

stman

Dang, Dog and I usually agree on grades. Now we don't agree sometimes on what's pretty and not so pretty.

mr1931S

very clean surfaces on this '98 dime,Casey...if not MS,it's very close...AU58,if it has considerable luster,minimal wear or rub and minimal hairlines from possible light cleaning...

if this coin is a New Orleans issue,the weakness on the forehead could be strike weakness...
1898-O dimes are hard to find fully struck...this coin doesn't look like an 'O' mint product to me though...

Philly and San Francisco mint 1898 dimes come well-struck with nice luster according to Lawrence...now,i take that to mean that not all 1898-P and S dimes were well struck...

this is really a tough grading call from the image...your image of the obverse is not bad but it's hard to tell if this coin has much luster from the image...i'm thinking this coin is probably strictly uncirculated,or MS 60,at least...the marks are minimal and if "cartwheel" luster is present,i would say MS 63 tops...

do you have an image of the reverse of this coin that you can post?

wingedliberty

Casey:
I think you should offer the guy $45.00, that would be fair.


Brian.

mr1931S

i see you did post a pic of the reverse,Casey...for some reason it didn't open up for me right away...

a Philly '98...i see some strike weakness,doesn't look like wear to me,on the corn and ribbon bow...

luster showing?...MS 62...

Casey

It is being touted as "uncirculated" and original with no problems. The opening bid of $110 seems too high.

Thanks for all of the comments.

wingedliberty

$110 is way too high, its a $50 raw coin.

Brian.

stman

Make sure you pass on this coin. Again, I don't feel it's unc and it for sure isn't "original"

mr1931S

i would pass on this coin for the reason that, even though i think it's possibly in mint-state condition,it's not a particulary sharp example from the Philadelphia mint...

darktone

I agree with dog97's assesment of the coin being dipped but I think it could get a low mint state grade if it does not appear over dipped in person. mike

MrKelso

I guess AU58

NumisEd

Casey, I am not suggesting that you purchase this coin, especially at the $110 that the seller is asking. However, I would like to make a point that has not yet been made; your purchases should be influenced by the eye appeal of a coin and how it would fit into your collection. Another way to look at it: sometimes, an AU-58 coin is worth far more than an MS-61 coin. I recently purchased a bust half that was advertised as an UNC, but I knew the coin was really a slider AU-58. The coin has smashing luster and original rainbow toning. Even with the obvious rub on the high-points, it's a beautiful coin.

Unfortunately, it seems that most collectors today are only able to look at the grade on a slab (someone else's opinion), then look at a corresponding grade on the Greysheet before deciding if they should buy the coin. What about eye appeal? Would you rather own a relatively mark-free, toned, slightly circulated yet highly lusterous Morgan Dollar, or a baggy, white Morgan dollar that lived it's life going from bank bag to bank bank before being entombed in a plastic coffin?

dorkkarl

ms-60, can't judge luster from a digi-pic. even if dipped, i'd still go ms-60.

K S

Casey

NumisEd,

Great comments and I agree completely. I prefer AUs to lower range MS coins for the better eye appeal usually found. As a newbie, I'm still finding my way through the grading / pricing process and trying to be careful about overpaying. I really appreciate all of the comments.

I have another Barber dime I'm going to try to post later on this evening. I have this one in my possession .

Casey