I can see how it would be real easy to change a "3", "6", or "9" to an "8"....people should watch out for those numbers. I think most other numbers would be difficult to change without damaging the card.
BGS graded it, if it had writting on the surface it would have got a 2-3 on Surface grade. The ink can be removed from most any foil card with rubbing alcohol.
What an idiot, doesn't he know that there's only one #8???
JC214- Did you not read any of this thread? lol. The point is there can be 114 #8/114 because sellers are removing the ink. How are you going to know which one is teh original #8/114 and the rest are bsically worthless because they have been altered. There are some on eBay right now.
Man oh man...how many times do I have to see that Martin SPX #444/900. The story behind that card was it was a factory replacement and the person complained that they never received it. They sent out a replacement twice and the guy got both of them. They were not pulled out of packs, they are replacements!
As for the #8/114....the seller is an idiot. Why list an auction like that? To promote that he's dumb I guess. He won't get squat from those auctions and probably changed the numbers himself.
As for the numbers, you can clearly see that the BGS 8 was signed in a lighter blue ink. The BGS 9 is real (or he matched the ink properly) while the BGS 8 is a fake. If you rub certain auto's on glossy surfaces with your finger some ink rubs off. That surface on the sages rubs off with ease. That's why factory numbered cards or cards hand numbered on unglossy cards are the way to go. You can't change the number on a unglossy card because the ink is sucked into the cardboard...while factory numbers can't be copied unless you pull off a scan like the Martin #444, and get them to send it to you twice.
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I can see how it would be real easy to change a "3", "6", or "9" to an "8"....people should watch out for those numbers. I think most other numbers would be difficult to change without damaging the card.
Ken
The ink can be removed from most any foil card with rubbing alcohol.
<< <i>The ink can be removed from most any foil card with rubbing alcohol. >>
thanks for the tip, hehehehhe *evil laugh*
My site.
JC214- Did you not read any of this thread? lol. The point is there can be 114 #8/114 because sellers are removing the ink. How are you going to know which one is teh original #8/114 and the rest are bsically worthless because they have been altered. There are some on eBay right now.
As for the #8/114....the seller is an idiot. Why list an auction like that? To promote that he's dumb I guess. He won't get squat from those auctions and probably changed the numbers himself.
As for the numbers, you can clearly see that the BGS 8 was signed in a lighter blue ink. The BGS 9 is real (or he matched the ink properly) while the BGS 8 is a fake. If you rub certain auto's on glossy surfaces with your finger some ink rubs off. That surface on the sages rubs off with ease. That's why factory numbered cards or cards hand numbered on unglossy cards are the way to go. You can't change the number on a unglossy card because the ink is sucked into the cardboard...while factory numbers can't be copied unless you pull off a scan like the Martin #444, and get them to send it to you twice.