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How do you take a good pic of a DMPL? ty in advance.

Hi,

I have a 1903 DMPL I'm going to try to auction, and am wondering if I should leave the goldish tone it's got on it from I suppose the baggy, or should I have it proffessionally dipped, so the mirrors show nicely as they're fairly hidden the way it is. I'm new to this, and any help would really be appreciated. Here is a pic to give you an idea ( although I cannot seem to take a pic that shows the mirrors! grrrrrr! But you can probably see the rest of the goldish stuff that wasn't left on the baggy.

Thanks in advance for any help.

thankyou
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  • Dog97Dog97 Posts: 7,874 ✭✭✭
    Here's how to make a bad scan of one.
    obv
    rev
    HP4200c 100dpi 300% size with the slab propped on a pencil.
    Change that we can believe in is that change which is 90% silver.
  • Cam40Cam40 Posts: 8,146
    thankyou-I dont know about the grade of the coin but I,d bet a palm reader could give you more details about you,than a coin collector could get a reading on the details of the coin from a picture like that.image

    Dog-could anything be done to fix that black dot on the obverse?Or not,..maybe that dot is an `NT` dot.Original spot.Dont touch it.....lol
  • Thank you for the help on that. My other concern was, can you please help me in understanding how I may get the greenish bluish goldish crud off of it that is sucking to it which will eventually deteriorate and eat this piece of history. It is somewhat blocking the mirrored surfaces the coin has as well, which is not good. I need to know if there is a way to do this without hurting the coin itself, nor hurting the appearance of the original surface, nor hurting it's monetary value. It has been around for a long time, and It deserves to look nice and not rot away with the corrosion on it. Any help would be very much appreciated. Thank you very much.

    thankyou
  • Dog97Dog97 Posts: 7,874 ✭✭✭
    Cam40 that black dot is an impurity in the alloy. I dipped it 4 years ago and it was clean for a little while then came back.
    thankyou what do you mean by goldish stuff from the baggy? If it's just a little tone it's ok but I hope it isn't pvc damage. I would swish it around in some acetone but that's as far as I would go. I don't think a dip would help it because a dip only helps very lightly toned coins and very few coins can actually be improved by the dip. It's hard to tell from your pict what it really looks like.
    Change that we can believe in is that change which is 90% silver.
  • Cam40Cam40 Posts: 8,146
    TY-I would not recommend dipping a coin like this if your not already very familiar with dipping coins IE what works,what doesnt work,what coins can be dipped ,what coins shouldnt be dipped(except maybe by paid professionals such as at NCS,a coin curating service.)I myself being somewhat familar with dipping and have some confidence now with useing it,would really hesitate on dipping a real DMPL Morgan.
    First thing I thiink is you have to assertain what the `goldish color` is.Most likely its just alittle toning.No big deal.But if like Dog says,If its PVC stuff,...well.that stuff really should be removed anyway but by doing so,it will likely lower the grade some and show the pitted corrosion left behind.This probably isnt the case here.
    Personally I think its retoning from and old cleaning.Nearly every collected coin has been played with by someone along the way.If only to clean it with their shirt tail.
    This could be a dippable/slabbable coin.Its too hard to say one way or the other given your current photo.
  • michaelmichael Posts: 9,524 ✭✭
    here is a scan of a gem dmpl fully cameoed morgan in a pcgs holder
    as you can see it is really difficult to take a photo of a silver coin with deeply mirrored surfaces

    this coin looks much much better in person sight seen

    anyway good luck with it and all you can do is try your best to at least
    give buyers something to look at with a scan and

    for me always give any buyer a 100% money back guarantee!!

    at least if they like it and bid high they are not taking any risk and may keep it if the coin is a great! coin

    sincerely michael
  • Michael,

    Thank you. Perfect Advice and if it's okay with you, I'm gonna go by those same very simple business ethics if I sell any coins. A fair and good way to go on all accounts for everyone that way.

    Well, THANKS GUYS! cause now I'm probably hooked! If I DO sell anything I'll probably feel the "urge" to get MORE coins! lol! I'll be on the 12 step program or something before I know it. Is there a "patch" you can put on your hand, for stopping the coin hobby " or has anyone just done it "cold turkey?? After a while, do you start shaking if your out of coins? Mommy!

    ( On a serious note, I wanted to say, I truly appreciate the genuine kindness and extremely good nature I have encountered in everyone I've talked to here and thank you for your help and encouragement)

    thankyou

    Carl
  • michaelmichael Posts: 9,524 ✭✭
    good luck with it carl i think you got bitten by the coin bug and you will have fun! and hopefully make some money!

    just make short fair descriptions and just do your best with scans and then with the 100% money back guarantee i think if you get a good rep and good feedback you will have many repeat customers!

    just keep positive and let me know how you do!!

    oh and if you offer the finest quality monster eye appealling coins that are truly scarce and/or decent bread and butter stuff you will get really great prices and a loyal following of repeat buyers!

    sincerely michael

  • Are All DMPL's also "Cameos" or can a DMPL have semi and / or fully reflective devices?


    thankyou!

    Caaaaaarl
  • Michael,

    ty

    I know I don't know much about coins now,but hopefully sometime in the future I can be of help to you!
    Man, it will probably be a while before I will be able to be of help to anybody. This is like learning Jazz or something. It will take years to learn. I'M IN! LOL.

    Carl
  • Dog97Dog97 Posts: 7,874 ✭✭✭
    >>>>Are All DMPL's also "Cameos" or can a DMPL have semi and / or fully reflective devices?>>>
    DMPL is the quality of the fields and has nothing to do with cameo.
    >>>>DMPL have semi and / or fully reflective devices>>> goes like this.
    New dies strike DMPL Cameo coins. As the dies wear they start to strike Prooflike coins. Then they wear some more and turn into semi-Prooflike strikes. Then some more wear and the dies are now striking normal Mint State coins.
    Then they wear out and are retired from service or they might clash and then are reworked & polished and the process starts all over again but without the frosty cameo on the devices.
    Change that we can believe in is that change which is 90% silver.

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