Am I making a mistake??

MosesBlack

Is NGC really worth that much less than PCGS?linky

JLW

MosesBlack,
Not in my opinion, I think they're gaining ground every day. Good luck with the auction!
Joe

Rampage

Moses. That is a beautiful coin. I do not kn ow what the price of a PCGS speciment brings, but the price on the NGC coin seems great. Though I need that coin for my collection, I am in no mood for sniping tonight. So, enjoy it if you win it. Please let me know how it looks in person. Richard.

Placid

Well I guess it qualify's as red not red/brown but I like my reds all red but it could just be the picture making it look dark in areas.
The thing is ngc does not guarantee copper pcgs does.

MosesBlack

I have a PCGS certified 1909 cent that is actually a VDB. PCGS's guarantee: they will label it properly if pay postage both ways. Not the type of guarantee that i give.

lordmarcovan

I sold an MS66 1909 VDB cent in a PCGS holder a while back (under my wife's "ladymarcovan" ID). If I recall correctly, it went for something like $135.

That one is just over $103 now, with around 20 minutes remaining. It'll be interesting to see what happens at the end. I believe my coin was a bit more lustrous than that, though it might just be that those pictures make the coin look a bit darker. While I think my old PCGS coin was redder, that one looks like a pretty decent example, too.

(I just dug up a small, crummy picture of the obverse on mine, which makes it look a bit darker than it was):

My old PCGS coin:


Compared to the NGC coin from the link above:


(Of course, the entire difference could be in the pictures.)

LincolnCentMan

I bought this one from the same seller yesterday. Are you kidding me, a coin that looks like that for only $112.50. That's a winner. I wasnting even looking to buy a VDB, especially not a NGC one. But man, if it looks that nice in person, I'll be a happy man.

Here's the only two auctions I could find in e-bay's history for PCGS 66RD's.
Link 1
Link 2

It looks like NGC 66RD VDB's are trading at around $80-$110. You cant tell me that either one of those PCGS 66RD's is $80/$100 better than mine. Well, you can, but I wont believe you. . I collect coins in the holder, but sometimes... you just got to buy the coin .

David

TomB

What would disturb me highly about that coin is the fairly large and obvious scratch in the field below the "M" of "AMERICA" on the reverse.

MosesBlack

Good eye, TomB. that's why i didn't keep bidding.

LincolnCentMan

A nick or two is allowed on 66RD's as long as they arnt too distracting. What would concern me more about that particular example would be the darker area above the left wheat stalk.

David

Coppernicus

Once a month, I review all PCGS Lincoln wheat cents autions on ebay and load them in a spreadsheet. (Do not try this at home unless you are a fanatic!) In the last 10 months, the average hammer price for a 1909 VDB PCGS 66Rd was $151.46 with the low being $131.42 and the high being $179.39. So, it is a fact that a PCGS slab on this coin, on average, will sell for more than an NGC of the same grade, assuming the $108.51 hammer on the NGC earlier tonight is typical (I do not track NGC auctions).

Coppernicus

Coppernicus

WOW! - I just looked at LincolnCentMan's links to the two auctions this month and both hammer prices were out of my database range. I update at the end of each month so my average price and top dollar figure noted above will change. I've got five 09 VDBs: 63, 64, 65, 66, 67 (all PCGS) so with the prices I'm seeing, I may have to consider selling the low-enders.

Thanks, LincolnCentMan for the eye-opening recent results!

Coppernicus

Placid

<< <i>I bought this one from the same seller yesterday. Are you kidding me, a coin that looks like that for only $112.50. That's a winner. I wasnting even looking to buy a VDB, especially not a NGC one. But man, if it looks that nice in person, I'll be a happy man.

Here's the only two auctions I could find in e-bay's history for PCGS 66RD's.
Link 1
Link 2

It looks like NGC 66RD VDB's are trading at around $80-$110. You cant tell me that either one of those PCGS 66RD's is $80/$100 better than mine. Well, you can, but I wont believe you. . I collect coins in the holder, but sometimes... you just got to buy the coin .

David >>




Hmm... the ngc slabs have almost the same cert numbers.
Must have been made by the same person.