Good point. But no, I don't think that's B&W. It does look like a clad coin, doesn't it? I saw an NGC MS65 1815(?) Bust quarter at an NCNA show in Raleigh, a while back. It had that kind of blast-white luster. It had a five-figure pricetag, though. I couldn't find the MS65 Bust half Ira was comparing this coin to, but a 63 with that kind of eye appeal is probably a better deal, anyway. I am quite fond of PQ coins in the 62-63-64 range- practically the same eye appeal for a lot less money.
You guys really go gaga over that coin? White bust coins are like artificial breasts. They just aren't real. Maybe nice eye candy, but not original.........and everyone knows it. Just me I guess. I'd pass on that one.
dipped for sure, darn near full strike........but i like mine more original...........
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I know they're artificial, but I still can't resist. It's nice to see what they looked like when they left the mint. Can't do that with a 100% "original" coin, though of course those have their appeal, too. Naturally, if the coin was circulated at all, (even AU58), I would prefer it with the original toning. Don't ask me why my opinions on that change when the coins reach the MS grade levels. It's just one of those things, I suppose.
(BTW, I have nothing against a little silicone, if it was done within certain boundaries and doesn't look freakish, if you know what I mean. Natural, artificial... both can be appealing. In coins as in other things.)
Nice strike, luster, etc., but... I'll never understand why a MS coin that's had it's original surfaces stripped away can slab, but a cirulated coin with a rim nick can't.
Although I believe that most coins of this era that appear blast white have most likely been dipped, I can't state for a fact that THIS coin has been, nor do I believe that it is impossible that a few coins may have been preserved in this state. Regardless, I like it - it looks "fresh".
BigD5,
Would your opinion change if hypothetically speaking it could be determined that this or such a coin had been owned by one family with an individual with the means (know-how or finances to procure the know-how) to maintain a coin in environmentally safe conditions?
Gilbert, I'd have to say yes. I agree that not "every" bust coin that is white has been dipped, and this particular coin seems very nice, and may, in fact, not have been dipped, but I wouldn't place any of my kids college tuition on that guess. I think it's impossible to say it's not a nice coin, the strike looks tremendous, and the luster seems excellent. For me, which is the key to my comments, a white bust coin just doesn't seem "right". I'd spend my money elsewhere. I would never say that is a "bad" coin. Just not my preference.
Truly original bust halves are extremely rare, and this one has never, ever been tampered with. Unlike most coins of the era, it shows not signs of abrasion whatsoever.
Just thought you might like an opportunity to compare Ira's coin against a true original.
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(LM falls out of chair)
Wow. Wow wow wow.
Excellent seller, too.
Brian
Just me I guess. I'd pass on that one.
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Brian.
(BTW, I have nothing against a little silicone, if it was done within certain boundaries and doesn't look freakish, if you know what I mean. Natural, artificial... both can be appealing. In coins as in other things.)
Oh well. Dip happens.
BC
Although I believe that most coins of this era that appear blast white have most likely been dipped, I can't state for a fact that THIS coin has been, nor do I believe that it is impossible that a few coins may have been preserved in this state. Regardless, I like it - it looks "fresh".
BigD5,
Would your opinion change if hypothetically speaking it could be determined that this or such a coin had been owned by one family with an individual with the means (know-how or finances to procure the know-how) to maintain a coin in environmentally safe conditions?
I'd have to say yes. I agree that not "every" bust coin that is white has been dipped, and this particular coin seems very nice, and may, in fact, not have been dipped, but I wouldn't place any of my kids college tuition on that guess.
I think it's impossible to say it's not a nice coin, the strike looks tremendous, and the luster seems excellent. For me, which is the key to my comments, a white bust coin just doesn't seem "right". I'd spend my money elsewhere. I would never say that is a "bad" coin. Just not my preference.
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1830 Bust Half, MS-63 (sorry about the large image)
Truly original bust halves are extremely rare, and this one has never, ever been tampered with. Unlike most coins of the era, it shows not signs of abrasion whatsoever.
Just thought you might like an opportunity to compare Ira's coin against a true original.
Sincerely,
jadecoin
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