My first Trade Dollar, what do you guys think it would grade?

Russ · December 20, 2002 8:01AM

Just got this 1875-S in today:

I don't know the first thing about how to grade them. What would this grade?

Russ, NCNE

gmarguli · December 20, 2002 8:05AM

It's a beauty!

Russ · December 20, 2002 8:07AM

Greg,

Are you being Mean & Evil?

Russ, NCNE

Cam40 · December 20, 2002 8:08AM

VF-EF range I,d guess.

ClausUrch · December 20, 2002 8:09AM

Fine-20???

mbbiker · December 20, 2002 8:10AM

VF+

gmarguli · December 20, 2002 8:16AM

Greg,

Are you being Mean & Evil?

Not at all. You're oblong Trade dollar is quite interesting.

If I were being mean & evil I'd tell you about the 1964 proof set with an accented hair and a cameo cent I picked up today for $9.50, but I'm not mean and evil....

KlectorKid · December 20, 2002 8:19AM

looks VF

Russ · December 20, 2002 8:22AM

<< <i>You're oblong Trade dollar is quite interesting. >>

Must be bad photography.

<< <i>1964 proof set with an accented hair and a cameo cent I picked up today for $9.50 >>

Peeshaw! I nailed three at that price last Saturday alone.

Russ, NCNE

berylcoin · December 20, 2002 8:26AM

Is it a cast copy or something? Between the porous uneven fields, the aforementioned out-of-roundness
and the strange mix of flat and detailed areas, it doesn't look right to me. Could just be the pics I guess.

BC

Placid · December 20, 2002 8:33AM

F15. But it seems cleaned so net 8.

shirohniichan · December 20, 2002 8:34AM

My first thought is that it's counterfeit also. I guess that makes it a CF-20.

tradedollarnut · December 20, 2002 8:54AM

Sorry, Russ, I have to agree with Shiro. Doesn't look right.

Russ · December 20, 2002 8:56AM

You mean I got screwed?

Russ, NCNE

lordmarcovan · December 20, 2002 8:57AM

EF45.

(EF being Extremely Fake, in this case...)

KlectorKid · December 20, 2002 9:00AM

"In god We Trust" looks weird to me.

lordmarcovan · December 20, 2002 9:02AM

That's because it doesn't say "In Good We Trust", Kid. It says God.

Russ · December 20, 2002 9:04AM

You know, there are so many ways to have cheap fun in this hobby.

Russ, NCNE

Outhaul · December 20, 2002 9:04AM

Doesn't look quite right to me, either. May be counterfeit.

Russ · December 20, 2002 9:05AM

You mean I got screwed?

Russ, NCNE

Outhaul · December 20, 2002 9:06AM

Russ,

Tough to say without seeing it in person.

Russ · December 20, 2002 9:07AM

Man, I hope not!

Russ, NCNE

Placid · December 20, 2002 9:09AM

Your photo looks like teletrades.

Russ · December 20, 2002 9:13AM

Placid,

Yeah, it does look like the scans they do. Probably because I use a black background. I'd guess they do also. All my raw coin shoots look like that:

Russ, NCNE

DanC · December 20, 2002 9:26AM

Is this the one you were talking about the other day you paid $8,000 for????

Elcontador · December 20, 2002 9:41AM

Russ,

I wouldn't even buy a G 04 Trade Dollar raw. Those coins were counterfeited in a big
way in Asia and some of them can be found for sale here. The 1875 S was the most
popular date to forge.

I picked up a very good counterfeit when I was in Vietnam. It was an 1875 CC, so I
thought it had a better chance of being genuine. It even fooled a number of dealers.
Apparently the tip it was a fake to those in the know was that the silver content wasn't
quite right. One could not tell just from looking at it in the holder; they had to listen to
the coin's ping when it hit metal (it had so many other scratches, that this didn't make a
difference).

Shiro and TDN can tell you more about this than I can. I could have gotten $80 for mine,
but sold it to a guy with the clear understanding that it was a fake for $20.