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stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
Not so pretty but original? Pretty but original? Not original?

Actually, I know it's not your mint set toning, But I like the gritty look of it. Text
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  • LucyBopLucyBop Posts: 14,001 ✭✭✭
    An excellent image of this toned monster. A little steep for me, but I love it!
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  • coppercoinscoppercoins Posts: 6,084 ✭✭✭
    Each is to his own. Looks like it's been through a house fire to me. More chemicals on that than a laboratory. Nice image, though.
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  • braddickbraddick Posts: 23,975 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Lucy- I agree with you on the beauty of the coin (and the price!).

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  • jomjom Posts: 3,441 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I agree with coppercoins. It's dark and ugly, IMO. The price is...well....just that...the price!

    jom
  • I like the toning on the coin. If Adrian gets what he's asking for it, it will probably be a world record price for a MS-64 Franklin.
  • Take a brillo pad to it.
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  • LucyBopLucyBop Posts: 14,001 ✭✭✭
    Are Jom and Mikey brothers? They look alike..
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  • stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Take a brillo pad to it. >>



    Which is probably why your coins are getting sent back in a body bag.
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  • BigD5BigD5 Posts: 3,433
    I don't care for Franklins.....at all, but I have picked up a few over the years. This wouldn't be one of them, even if it was $30.

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  • How does a Frankie get that kind of extreme toning? I usually like 'em white, but I have to say that toning is quite interesting.
  • Pretty toning, too many marks for me though.
  • MacCoinMacCoin Posts: 2,544 ✭✭
    love that tone hate that price.
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  • cosmicdebriscosmicdebris Posts: 12,332 ✭✭✭
    How about the write up!image
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  • an $18.00 coin for $2300.00.

    That makes $2282.00 of subjective "value".

    If the universe of coin buyers who are ga-ga for monster toning every does a Bobby Ewing and wakes up to find a period of time didn't happen, there are going to be lots of unhappy campers.

    I guess it just me, but I will take em blast white, thank you.
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  • leothelyonleothelyon Posts: 8,459 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I love it but can't buy it. There is a society of tone lovers out there. The coin is unique with the toning.
    While I was relishing in my 3 and 5/8ths ounces of gold (lol, I'll laugh first) a couple of days ago, I came across a raw 1961 proof that I've had but the toning on both sides has grown into a rich orange-red with touches of sky light blue. What it's worth, I don't know. It really depends. How's that saying go, the beauty lies in the eye of the beholder.

    Beautiful coin Adrian.

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  • I have always felt that a "wondercoin" should "speak for itself".

    However, we are presented a long textual description of the self-justification for the seller's rationale for purchasing it, which infers that there might be someone else, somewhere who, sometime might possibly do likewise and purchase this non-FBL, MS64 common date Franklin Half for over $2000.

    This is not typical mint set toning, especially for a 1957-D. Additionally, the highest centrally located or "peak" areas of this coin, which in cross-section constitute the coin's thickest regions, are LESS deeply toned than the thinner portions of the coin. Observing the image, you will note that the bell line area and majority of the raised bell, Franklin's cheek bone, the hair curl above his ear and the top of his head are LIGHTER toned yellow as opposed to the much deeper shades in the rest of the coin. (These thick highpoints will also be where one will notice deficiencies of strike on a Franklin Half).

    When heating a coin, for a limited period of time, the absortion of energy by the thickest regions of the coin is slightly less. Hence, if the coin is removed from the heat source (before these thicker areas have been able to absorb sufficient heat content) the oxidation of the metal within these thickest areas may be notably less intense and provoke a pattern as seen in the photoscan.

    This is in distinct contrast to many original deeper mint set toned coins where these same high points of the coin layed more snuggly against the sulphur containing paper for years. It is these same areas which charteristically are MORE involved in the toning process than the shallower areas of the coin which come into less direct contact with the paper. The same can be said of an occassional Franklin which has resided as the end coin in an original roll, but in that case the toning would be largely or exclusively on one side only. Also, the toning on most Franklins that has been naturally aquired (mint set or otherwise) has a look that is not as perfectly matched on both sides as it is here. The obverse and reverse toning of this particular coin in question are virtually EXACT mirror images of each other, not only of the types of colors but in the form and distribution of the shades on both sides. This suggests an external heating with resulting varying toning based on the thickness of each corresponding area of the obverse and reverse.

    This is only my individual viewpoint. It obviously differs from the seller's and that of the NGC certification service who feel it is authentic. I submit this evaluation not to discredit either, but to offer my personal observations and opinions in this numismatic forum setting. For me the coin "speaks for itself" but I hear something different. Then again, I could be wrong.





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