Will PCGS do this?

geb209

If requested, will PCGS give the date that a coin was encapsulated? I know that a blue label means a more recent submission. I, however, want to know if a coin was encapsulated with the last year? Thanks.

osirisMMII

Blue label with bar code on front or an 8 digit cert # are slabbed within past year (unless it starts with "0" in which case it was a recently "reslabbed" coin). Don't think PCGS will tell you what you wanna know though.........

prooflike

I do think PCGS should have a small mark with month/year of slabbing on the label.

geb209

Thanks for the info.

kieferscoins

They shouldn't do that. The idea is to have consistent grading that does not matter the time of year or certian date it was graded.

Cameron Kiefer

Steve27

There is no way PCGS can give you an exact date as to when a coin was graded; they just don't keep that type of information. The holder type gives some evidence, but reholdering can mask the true date.

P.S. I hear coins graded on Mondays and Fridays should be avioded.

kieferscoins

<< <i>they just don't keep that type of information. >>



We have no clue what type of info they keep. They may have records for each submission and coin going back to 1986. They may not give the info out, but saying they don't have that info can be wrong.

cameron Kiefer

osirisMMII

<< <i>They shouldn't do that. The idea is to have consistent grading that does not matter the time of year or certian date it was graded.

Cameron Kiefer >>




Yeah Cameron...... that's the idea! But in the past month or two PCGS has gone from inconsistant to ridiculous!!! At least with what I collect - Kennedys and Jeffersons. 2 months ago they were hammerin' coins with ridiculously low grades/designations - now in the past month they are giving away grades that were hardly achievable for years Pop on the 1966 Kennedy SMS MS68 was at 23-24 for several years (at least) and someone just popped 7 of them?? And gee...... DHRC has one in stock Only one 70DCAM Kennedy in several years and now a couple in the past month (yeah I know.... I know....). The 1957 Jeff in PR68 had a pop of 16 for ? In the past month it's become a pop 26 coin???? The 1972 Jefferson in 69DCAM was a pop 13 coin forever.......... (and I paid good $ for mine!) - in the past month it's become a pop 18 coin! These are just a few of many examples out there.

This is making it difficult to buy coins in PCGS slabs right now! Why do I want to pay good money for a difficult coin only to find that because I didn't check the pop today I get screwed??? And how in the hell can PCGS justify this outragoues change in their grading standards??????? Where is the consistancy?????? When I spend my "collecting" money on a coin I try to buy as nice a coin as I can find but with two different grading standards I'm not sure I want to buy anything in a PCGS slab right now until PCGS figures out what the hell they are doing! It's a waste of both my time and my money!

I actually like prooflike's idea........ at least I'd know what grading scale was being used at the time of slabbing and whether or not the coin deserved the grade!

osirisMMII

In reference to my above comments I sure wish someone would submit some '71 Jeffs. I need a plastic 69DCAM for my registry set!

Steve27

Sorry Cameron, but we do know what information they keep with regard to certification numbers:



"The certification numbers mean nothing. Each day, the receivers choose a different series of numbers with which to do their work. The computer then dictates which numbers will be used within that series. So if I am a receiver and choose the 80 million series today, the computer will assign the coins I enter the necessary certificate numbers within the 80 million series".

RickMontgomery

airplanenut

Steve- that doesn't mean that their is no computer database with the following:

Submitter:
Date Submitted:
Coin1/ID #:
Coin2/ID #:
etc...

kieferscoins

Thanks airplanenut. I was going to say the same thing. The graders can pick what #'s they want, but there must still be a way for them to track the coins internally within their own system and hence they should have when the coin was slabbed.

Cameron Kiefer

Steve27

Sorry guys but I still have to disagree. Rick made it pretty clear that PCGS just isn't interested in that type of information. While they might be able to go back as much as three years (for tax purposes), I'm sure that there is no way they can account for the millions of coins they have graded. They're running a business, not a library.

Steve27

This would be a good question for David Hall. When is the next Q/A session?

kieferscoins

Today. Submit the question on the Q&A forum and he usually answers at night.

Cameron Kiefer

Charlie

The cert numbers are randomly selected to prevent someone from guessing when a coin was graded.

PCGS does have all of the history for each cert number. This is only for internal use.

Charlie

nwcs

As a computer programmer I can say it is a simple matter for them to retain detailed information on each coin submitted. It doesn't cost much in storage space and is not difficult to maintain at all. It is my belief that they retain this for archive purposes, data mining, and marketing purposes and have no desire to release the information to the public (for which I am grateful)

kieferscoins

<< <i>PCGS does have all of the history for each cert number. This is only for internal use. >>



I knew it. PCGS would have to have the stuff if a problem came up and they had to give the info on the coin like in a legal case.

Cameron Kiefer

BigE

"P.S. I hear coins graded on Mondays and Fridays should be avioded" Steve, how do you feel about the X-mas holiday and the day after New Years, will the grades go up or down. Thank you-----------BigE

wayneherndon

David Hall already addressed this in a thread asking about a "Born On Date" for slabs. Maybe someone can link here.

WH

ClarkOfKent

David Hall's "Born On Date" reply