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question on 97-p sms jefferson fs-vs-nofs

pontiacinfpontiacinf Posts: 8,915 ✭✭
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does anyone know why a 97-p ms69 no fs is Worth more than the 97-p ms69fs?.....doesnt make any sence....


so surely someone can answer this.
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  • cosmicdebriscosmicdebris Posts: 12,332 ✭✭✭
    Coin # Description Desig 60 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70
    133A---1997-P------SMS------------ - - - 75 190 350 - - -
    133A---1997-P------SMS FS------- - - - 175 200 250 300 350 -

    Does not make sense someone goofed.


    Bill

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  • pontiacinfpontiacinf Posts: 8,915 ✭✭
    thanks Bill for the visible proof...you going to NYINC in Jan? Ill have a room for 2 days at the Waldorf Astoria where they are holding it.
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  • solidsolid Posts: 2,975
    Obviously a goof. Another note is that most of these coins are probably
    Full Steps, but were graded before PCGS began using the designation.

  • pontiacinfpontiacinf Posts: 8,915 ✭✭
    very good notation my friend...hadnt even thought of that.
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  • osirisMMIIosirisMMII Posts: 225


    << <i>Obviously a goof. Another note is that most of these coins are probably
    Full Steps, but were graded before PCGS began using the designation. >>




    Not only are they all FS (but not necessarily designated) but at one time they were more accurately designated "SP", such as SP69, rather than "SMS", such as SMS MS69. Of course this brings up the question of what the SP is? I've heard both "Special Proof" and "Specimen" - either one is more accurate and less confusing than calling them an SMS coin especially considering they were part of a commemerative set. image Another fine example of PCGS consistency...........
    ahhhh....... SODO MELVIN?????
  • cosmicdebriscosmicdebris Posts: 12,332 ✭✭✭
    They should just call them Matte Proofs and forget the SP or SMS.

    Bill I'll be going to the NYINC on Saturday only no room for me.
    Bill

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    09/07/2006
  • pontiacinfpontiacinf Posts: 8,915 ✭✭
    YEAH BUT WE CAN MEET UP BILL opps...ill giveya info and ya can just ask for me when ya get there.
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  • cosmicdebriscosmicdebris Posts: 12,332 ✭✭✭
    Sounds good.
    Bill

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    09/07/2006
  • leothelyonleothelyon Posts: 8,466 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There is the possibility the two SMS or SP 94-P and 97-P may exist in less then the perfect 6 steps but the numbers are at a fraction or likely minute of the two mintages. I think it would be an interesting coin to locate and perhaps collect considering that these two specially made nickels were minted to be perfect representations of the Jefferson nickel design. 2-3 years back someone had written in their coin's auction description that not all the new SMS 94-P and 97-P have the 6 full steps. At the time I had 4 examples of the two dates and didn't consider then to buy the coin that was offered. So no, I haven't seen one without 6 complete steps. However, do they exist? I don't know if I would pay more for one.

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    Leo

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  • pontiacinfpontiacinf Posts: 8,915 ✭✭
    wow Leo thanks for the cool info


    happy holidays guys

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