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  • wingedlibertywingedliberty Posts: 4,805 ✭✭✭
    Compucheap has a good eye!!!!


    Brian.
  • fcloudfcloud Posts: 12,133 ✭✭✭✭
    I think everyone must be tapped out from Christmas shopping.

    President, Racine Numismatic Society 2013-2014; Variety Resource Dimes; See 6/8/12 CDN for my article on Winged Liberty Dimes; Ebay

  • robertprrobertpr Posts: 6,862 ✭✭✭
    Russ,

    1- I'm not a bloodhound
    2- I was looking tonight, but at NEW auctions with BIN as I figured you'd be sniping the ones closing. Yep!
    3- How in the he-doublehockeysticks can you tell those are AH's? I know the diagnostics and all but those have to be the worst pictures ever!
    4- I don't even have any of these things. Throw us a bone sometimes why dontcha? image
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>3- How in the he-doublehockeysticks can you tell those are AH's? >>



    From those scans, a guess that they might be. From the better scans I had the sellers send me when they first listed the auctions, a certainty that they are.image

    Russ, NCNE
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Here's the scan from auction number one:

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    And, the scan from auction number two:

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    I have a hunch that if these sellers would have used those pics in the first place, they'd have made a little more money.image

    Russ, NCNE
  • PlacidPlacid Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭
    Doh!
  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    hey russ

    nice score on the second coin. i'm hoping you spend the money for that coin to take a trip to NCS. in any event, please keep the board posted when you receive it and if you send it to be certified.

    al h.image
  • What do the milk spots do as far as grading goes? Have you figured out a way to get rid of them?
  • GaCoinGuyGaCoinGuy Posts: 2,761 ✭✭✭✭
    Nice going on #2......a trip to NCS is just what that thing needs and it'll be top notch.......looks like a DCAM for sure.
    imageimage

  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    hey TommyB

    milk spots can sometimes be lessened to a certain degree but they are actually a part of the coin. they are residue from washing the planchets which wasn't fully removed prior to striking, thus they become part of the surface. NCS should be able to reduce them, but they'll almost always remain and be visible, lowering the numerical grade. the real problem with that half is what appears to be hairlining opposite JFK's face. if it is as bad as it appears the coin would downgrade significantly.

    i grade it as PR63DCAM. any other guesses out there? how 'bout you Russ, do you have a pre "coin-in-hand" assessment from the pictures?

    al h.image
  • Sorry Keets, the coin won't make DCAM on the obverse and it still has a thing, or two. to prove on the reverse. image
  • thank you, Keets.
  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    hey DCAM

    i think you're talking about the first coin, in which case i would agree. the second, with the haze removed by a quick "bath" would no doubt be a wonderfullly contrasted DCAM. check the auction link Russ provided along with the enlarged extra pic he got from the seller and i'm sure you'll agree. no frost break whatsoever and it appears very uniform both obv/rev.

    while i don't always see eye-to-eye with Russ, i doubt he would have even have sniped the second coin, given the milkspots and the hairlining, if he wasn't at least reasonably certain it would DCAM. hey, he's shrewd if nothing else, especially with acc. hair JFK's!!!

    al h.image
  • I had the only DCAM AH that I knew of and it had milk spots too. I think DCAMs were the first off the press and they had some crap on the dies. Mine didnt come off and I was happy to get a 65DCAM. Still sold for good money.

    I also think there are a lot more AHs out there than collectors, in fact , If not for the registry I dont think anyone would care. The problem is that a 65DCAM counts the same as a PR67 which sells under a hundred bucks.
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    TommyB,



    << <i>What do the milk spots do as far as grading goes? >>



    It depends on where they're located. In the case of this coin, prominent on the obverse as they are, they're a killer. Probably a three point drop.



    << <i>Have you figured out a way to get rid of them? >>



    AFAIK, there is no way to completely remove them without damaging the surface, and I've tried every conceivable approach. Even NCS cannot remove most completely. But, they are somehow able to substantially reduce them without harming the coin.

    In the case of this particular coin, the hazing that's all over it will be easy to take care of. That alone will produce a much more dramatic contrast than we're seeing in the scans. The milk spotting appears from the scan to be relatively thin and probably would be improved by whatever it is that NCS does (I wish I knew!)

    In any event, it's certainly worth $5.51 to get the coin in hand and find out. Particularly since only 51 have ever made the DCAM designation in any grade.



    << <i>I also think there are a lot more AHs out there than collectors >>



    coynclecter,

    Currently.image

    Russ, NCNE

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