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Does this 1867 Two Cent piece look Brown or Red Brown to you guys?

RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
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It's in a PCGS MS62 BN holder. The first scan is how it appears in the auction, the second is lightened up to show the coin better. I'm very new to these but, to my eye, this looks like one that could have gone either way. What do you guys think?

Russ, NCNE

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  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,149 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The second picture leads me to believe RB... if he shot it at an angle you might get a better idea...
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  • braddickbraddick Posts: 23,975 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "Brown" includes copper that is light tan/ tan/ or shades of some red, usually under 30% or so.

    It's always fun to pick up a "Brown" copper with some RED.

    "RB" requires more red than the one you SCANNED.

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  • CLASSICSCLASSICS Posts: 1,164 ✭✭
    it does appear to be red and brown from what you are showing in the pictures, a very nice coin for the grade also.
  • 66Tbird66Tbird Posts: 2,858 ✭✭✭
    Just not quite enough red IMO. IF it were raw I would say brown. I remember that one, and it looks good to me.

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  • coppercoinscoppercoins Posts: 6,084 ✭✭✭
    Judging from the photo, the coin is RB.
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  • TrimeTrime Posts: 1,863 ✭✭✭
    Russ,
    I am not sure I understand. What does the coin look like to the eye? If your point is that photo editing can modify the appearance of a coin then it is a point well taken. If the point is that the first picture doesn't reflect the true appearance and the second does then I would say red-brown. Clearly the coin is graded as seen in the grading room. If it is your coin tell us the true image to your eye.
    Trime
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Trime,

    I have no idea what it looks like to the eye, as I've never seen it in person. It's listed at auction right now, and I was gathering opinions from people who have more experience than I.

    Russ, NCNE
  • TrimeTrime Posts: 1,863 ✭✭✭
    Russ,
    I guess the answer is that brightening images will take the brown out of the surface. I will then bet the real coin has progressed to brown in the toning process. Try another few images of B, and RB images and see how much change toward R you can create? If all else fails why not ask the seller what the coin looks like?
    Makes for an interesting concept of virtual collections where we collect images of coins and have virtual Registry Sets. Images will be copyrighted and sell at a premium. PCGS has become PCIGS and NGC has responded by renaming as NCIGC. There will be a time when Image Doctors run rampent Tooling, hairline and bagmark removal will be done on Photoshop 2007. The Luster button will enhance, but the thick skin software sells at a premium. The forum will turn to great arguements on AS (artificial scanning).image. A new deconvolution software will be created by PCIGS to analyze the image and bring it back to the real appearance. The services turn to guarenteeing that the images are true representations and actual coins are stored in a national repository. image
    Trime

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