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Jefferson jottings ...

Well, the fun continues for the boys with the under appreciated coins ... First, a warm welcome back to Carl on the "big" set, even at the expense of those of us below you! It is only right your set is back, for we knew it was there and some of us immodestly pretended we were a spot better than reality!

With yours truly having slipped by MJL for eighth on the 38-64 basic set, he has countered with upgrades on the 42 Ty. 1 to 67 and the 59 in 66 CAM to move within a perilous 4/10ths of one point of the stagnant Ludlow (come on, latest submission!) Nice coins, MJL!

And, on the early basic, Grant has upgraded to a 68 on the 1957 (19/0), which I know to be a tough coin because it took me months to secure my 68, to move into a tie for sixth with Geonumis!

And, a nod to LS Brown for adding DCAMs for 1962 (68) and 1963 and '64 (69s) to the big set. Again, nice coins.

On the late proofs, Bobby Jack -- known by another name on these boards -- has cracked the front page with what is going to be a superlative set.

What else? BNE is shopping, Frank is lurking, Carl never stops looking, GQ swears he is done, but keeps upgrading, etc., etc., etc.

You dare not stand still in Jeff land. Onward and upward, all!



Comments

  • Yeah I upgraded my '57 but I thought something was fishy when I suddenly found another one for sale....... and today it goes from a pop 19 coin to a pop 27!

    Has anyone else noticed some high-grade coin pops jumping dramatically recently? How is it highest grade coins are "suddenly" being "found" and slabbed? On one hand average coins are getting ridiculously low grades and highest and higher grade coins are coming out of the woodwork. Another form of PCGS screwing!
    ahhhh....... SODO MELVIN?????
  • I figured I'd relist my set in the '38-present proof Jeff Basic catagory. Seems like there is more action in that group image Thanks very much for the warm welcome!

    I am happy with my latest upgrade. It is the blue '42 T1 I talked about on this thread. It is the same grade as my old one but has more eye appeal. It is true; I will keep looking for proof Jeffs. But my ranking won't likely go up as I don't have the budget for them that I had when I built the set.
  • BNEBNE Posts: 772
    Osiris --

    The three '57s 68s that caused the pops to go from 16 to 19 last month were ones I made in a frantic search for the elusive (and so far non-existent) 69. I can't account for the truly huge recent leap you observed. That is mighty scary, and I have to admit to a growing concern that PCGS -- unable to follow the Golden Mean -- is now going to start slabbing huge numbers of high-grade coins. Of course, this will destroy the value of existing coins unless they will now go higher under the new regime. GULP. When we said "loosen up," we didn't mean THAT MUCH!image
    "The essence of sleight of hand is distraction and misdirection. If smoeone can be convinced that he has, through his own perspicacity, divined your hidden purposes, he will not look further."

    William S. Burroughs, Cities of the Red Night
  • Hey, wait a minute, I don't remember saying loosen up image But then my memory is not as good as it used to be image
  • BNEBNE Posts: 772
    Actually, Carl, now that I think about it, I think we only requested that they loosen up on our OWN coins.image
    "The essence of sleight of hand is distraction and misdirection. If smoeone can be convinced that he has, through his own perspicacity, divined your hidden purposes, he will not look further."

    William S. Burroughs, Cities of the Red Night
  • Nice post....but I swear I will never up grade my set again....I swear I will never up grade my set again....I swear I will never upgrade my set again.................(Well...maybe not until a 1959 Proof 68 comes along!) For now I will just sit back and watch MTH and Grant make a move for a play-off berth.

    Have fun guys.....check out the early Jefferson Circ. Strikes....they are really on the move. imageimage

    MY NEW PURCHASE...I HOPE I DIDN'T MAKE A MISTAKE!
    NICKEL TRIUMPH...
  • What was that GQ? You won't upgrade until a 1959 in PCGS PR 68 comes along ? It just so happens I have one image

    BTW that looks like a nice '39-D. I don't follow circ strikes but will head over to check out some sets.
  • RGLRGL Posts: 3,784
    Very nice coin, GQ ... a triumphant buy? My first impression is how clean it looks, definitely worth the grade.
  • RGLRGL Posts: 3,784
    Very interesting. After grading 2002-S Jeff proofs for 11/12ths of the year and finding nary a one, there suddenly are two PR-70 DCAMs in the pop report -- the first in what, three/four years? Frank? Carl? BNE? Fess up ...
  • I know a leetle bit about an aspect of this. I will say this, I think we are going to see more modern-modern 70DCAMs made under the new regime. This may depress the price of existing 70DCAMs, or it may not. It will depend on how much looser PCGS is now: an open question. The issue I am most interested in is in whether we will see a commensurate loosening for the pre-'64 years. If there is, it would be bad news for some of us, unless we resubmit and get an upgrade. I am in "watch and wait " mode.
    "The essence of sleight of hand is distraction and misdirection. If smoeone can be convinced that he has, through his own perspicacity, divined your hidden purposes, he will not look further."

    William S. Burroughs, Cities of the Red Night
  • I believe there are now at least 5 2002 PR70DCAMs. I do not currently own any of them. These 5 were made by two individuals.
    Frank
    (The Corso Collection) Always looking for high quality proof and full step Jeffersons - email me with details

    My Jefferson Full Step Variety Set (1938 - Current)

    My Jefferson Proof Variety Set (1938 - Current)
  • MonstavetMonstavet Posts: 1,235 ✭✭
    Fascinating stuff guys. For the moment I am going to hold back, but if more 70s become available (as they should) I may start a whole new Jefferson collection. It will be fun to try and find better pieces than my last group.
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  • Is this just idle talk or is PCGS really loosening up? I compared pop reports from a year ago in all of the Jefferson series and many dates are now a joke. Monstavet....good to see you again. Are you going to stay with Jeffersons?
    NICKEL TRIUMPH...
  • David Hall was quoted on these boards recently stating he thought .5 - 2% of all proofs could qualify for PR70 designation.

    I'm guessing the new policy has been implemented.

    Frank
    (The Corso Collection) Always looking for high quality proof and full step Jeffersons - email me with details

    My Jefferson Full Step Variety Set (1938 - Current)

    My Jefferson Proof Variety Set (1938 - Current)
  • RGLRGL Posts: 3,784
    We have a new big set player and, while he has a lot of toughies to go, he has acquired some nice coins. A welcome, please, to Kinzer: LINK
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