Coinguy1's Bust Half Arrived Today. Want to see some pictures??
Wisconsin
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I woke this morning wondering what time the fedex man would arrive with my new coin today. After all the publicity this coin has received here on the boards, I was more anxious than normal for the coin to arrive. Now that I have it, I have to decide if I should keep it or send it back. I took some pictures with my digital camera which show the coin a little different than Mark's pictures. I would say the coin has not been cleaned, and has nice clean original surfaces with no marks or scratches. The outer edge of the coin is toned a seagreen color which turns to an electric blue. From there it is a dark brown or maroon color that gradually gets lighter as it goes to the center of the coin. It would seem to me in person that the obverse has wear that would be consistant with an AU50, but has plenty of luster and eye appeal to up the grade from there. The reverse looks no question AU55 with the same luster and eye appeal. I think all things considered it should be a 55 coin, but resides in this 50 slab, which is ok with me. I think it is as good as you will ever see in a 50 holder and better than most 55's, if you consider the originality and wonderful toning.
I asked mark to keep me in mind for a nice half like this, as he already found me the dollar. He sure is a great guy, and has a way with finding the good stuff. I already emailed Mark and told him I love the coin and will take it. He sure is not a pushy sales person. His reply was to wait a few days before sending the check to be sure you still like it. My opinion is to love it forever and treasure it as one of my finest coins.
What do you think??? Picture links are below.
Obverse
Reverse
I asked mark to keep me in mind for a nice half like this, as he already found me the dollar. He sure is a great guy, and has a way with finding the good stuff. I already emailed Mark and told him I love the coin and will take it. He sure is not a pushy sales person. His reply was to wait a few days before sending the check to be sure you still like it. My opinion is to love it forever and treasure it as one of my finest coins.
What do you think??? Picture links are below.
Obverse
Reverse
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A sincere thank you for the nice post.
No wonder you started the thread about not being able to sleep the night before a coin arrives. What a coin! I'd be excited too. Hell, I am excited too. Way to go, and congratulations.
Clankeye
Cool find!
Greg
That's a very nice coin. You have every reason to be proud to have it in your collection.
Obscurum per obscurius
Send the coin to me. I can take much better pictures for you
The difference between your images and ours, is quite noticeable, even though each of us attempted to portray the coin accurately. I wish I had the coin in front of me so that I could compare it to each picture.
Since you have the coin there, which do you think is more accurate? I certainly think that your images show the true luster better and I think I might feel the same way about the color too. Either way -
I know pictures are not the best, but I tried to get the real color and luster. I think my picture shows this better. It is really all a matter of which way the coin is tilted for the shot. At the right angle-the color is much more vibant than at others, and the same goes for the light source it is viewed in.
Jay
It just really underlines Russ' good thread showing the different appearances of the same coin at different angles. And of course it backs up one of the board mantras... "You can't accurately grade a coin from a scan...."
The good thing in this case is that, you got a coin that is apparently "all there" and you are very happy with it.
Clankeye
Should we advertise that our coins are BETTER than our images or just that our images aren't too good?
What can I say, I send in a Wash quarter to PCGS expecting a 65 and they send it back to me a 67. I'm obviously vision impaired. Remember, I have a clankeye.
Clankeye
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myurl
your photos show the obverse fields to be cleaner than some,including myself,thought them to be from coinguys images...
Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.-Albert Einstein
Jay
I don't have my Overton book handy. What variety is it? Depending on variety, it might even be a lower condition census example.
Mark, do you have anymore like this?
It is graded by PCGS. I do not have a varieties book yet, so am not sure which it might be.
Jay
I will check on the Overton variety tonight, and let you know the rarity and condition census.
No, we don't have any more like that one - sorry.
From your post, it appears that you might not have seen the original thread on this coin. In case that is correct and you'd like to view it, here it is:
1807 50c thread
Your coin is an Overton 102, rarity 2. Not a scarce variety, but is mostly found in lower circulated grades. The 1990 Overton book lists condition census at 55, 55, 50, 45, 45. In 1994 the finest known, PCGS MS64, sold for $22,000. Most of the condition census coins listed in the 1990 Overton book have been exceeded for the draped bust series, but I would bet yours is still in the lower end of CC, especially since it should grade as a 55. Whatever, it is a coin to be proud of. My example is a mere VF30.
Mark, thanks for the link, I missed that one. I would go with the concensus of 55 for the grade, the coin should not be punished that much for a weak obverse strike, which all 1807 O-102's have anyway.
By the way, my father was born in Phillips, Wisconsin in 1917. Anywhere close to your place?
Thanks for the info. I am glad to have it. I just have one question. What do all the numbers mean??? 55, 55, 50, 45, 45. I have seen this type of listing before, but don't know how to decipher it??
Phillips WI is up North. I am 50 miles north of Milwaukee in Fond du Lac.
Jim,
I think I will keep the old piece of crap for a while.
those are the grades of the highest graded known pieces ( atleast at the time it was compiled) so yours is right up there with the best known
I am new to this, but sure do appreciate the opportunity to learn.
Jay
"The silver is mine and the gold is mine,' declares the LORD GOD Almighty."