I think it's a bit below average, but I could be wrong. I haven't seen a whole lot of the 1893-P's, but all the ones I've seen weren't that weakly struck. I just sold a very nice one in XF45 that was struck a bit better than that.
Are you sure that's a "P"? The 1 centered over the denticles would make me think it's an "S". Maybe someone removed the "S" mint mark to get that "rare" Philadelphia strike
Fully struck specimens with good luster is typical of this issue because on less extended use of dies to achieve low mintage. The 1893 "Proof" is generally weakly struck and considered the most poorly struck Morgan proof.
This coin looks to be a Vam 2 (3 in date doubled at top and shows as arc above the 3. Open 3 variety)
This couldn't be an "S" because there is no doubled 3 on the "S" die marriages. I suppose you were saying it as a joke, but, the 3 is a good diagnostic when looking at '93-S - if you are offered a '93-S with a doubled three, it is not legit.
93-Ps on average were average to above average strike. For an AU-53, that looks pretty good to me...may have gotten a 55 without that black mark. Would be interested in seeing the reverse. I've got an NGC 50 93-P with much more noticeable wear than your picture...
53 is still probably a good call based on the black spot on front...hurting the eye appeal. If that wasn't there, I still say it would have a shot at 55. Strike looks average
<< <i>Fully struck specimens with good luster is typical of this issue because on less extended use of dies to achieve low mintage. The 1893 "Proof" is generally weakly struck and considered the most poorly struck Morgan proof.
This coin looks to be a Vam 2 (3 in date doubled at top and shows as arc above the 3. Open 3 variety)
This couldn't be an "S" because there is no doubled 3 on the "S" die marriages. I suppose you were saying it as a joke, but, the 3 is a good diagnostic when looking at '93-S - if you are offered a '93-S with a doubled three, it is not legit. >>
So then it's not my eye's and what i am seeing is the 3 in the date looks like it is sitting higher then the rest of the date is that what justifies the VAM 2 or did i completely miss your explaination here If i did i am trying real hard to learn about Vam Var's and at times it becomes confusing but never the less to me extreemly interesting.
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MrKelso wants to know what makes it a vam 2....... Vam 1 normal Vam 2 doubled open 3 VAM 3 doubled closed 3 Vam 4 doubled stars Vam 5 dates sits far left The arch refers to the repunch that shows on top of the 3, not the curve the dates makes because the 3 is higher than the 189. You could count the edge reeds to make sure it's a P mint because they have 2 more reeds than the S mint.
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This coin looks to be a Vam 2 (3 in date doubled at top and shows as arc above the 3. Open 3 variety)
This couldn't be an "S" because there is no doubled 3 on the "S" die marriages. I suppose you were saying it as a joke, but, the 3 is a good diagnostic when looking at '93-S - if you are offered a '93-S with a doubled three, it is not legit.
Man I HATE trying to call AU dollars.....
<< <i>Fully struck specimens with good luster is typical of this issue because on less extended use of dies to achieve low mintage. The 1893 "Proof" is generally weakly struck and considered the most poorly struck Morgan proof.
This coin looks to be a Vam 2 (3 in date doubled at top and shows as arc above the 3. Open 3 variety)
This couldn't be an "S" because there is no doubled 3 on the "S" die marriages. I suppose you were saying it as a joke, but, the 3 is a good diagnostic when looking at '93-S - if you are offered a '93-S with a doubled three, it is not legit. >>
So then it's not my eye's and what i am seeing is the 3 in the date looks like it is sitting higher then the rest of the date is that what justifies the VAM 2 or did i completely miss your explaination here If i did i am trying real hard to learn about Vam Var's and at times it becomes confusing but never the less to me extreemly interesting.
"The silver is mine and the gold is mine,' declares the LORD GOD Almighty."
Vam 1 normal
Vam 2 doubled open 3
VAM 3 doubled closed 3
Vam 4 doubled stars
Vam 5 dates sits far left
The arch refers to the repunch that shows on top of the 3, not the curve the dates makes because the 3 is higher than the 189.
You could count the edge reeds to make sure it's a P mint because they have 2 more reeds than the S mint.