Talk about your dirty coins....

TONEDDOLLARS · December 10, 2002 11:00AM

take a look at this one. This is one of a few new newps I just came across to add to my dirty coin collection

Placid · December 10, 2002 11:02AM

Excellent

jbsteven · December 10, 2002 11:06AM

a beauty

what did you pay for it?

ursabear · December 10, 2002 11:07AM

Very, very nice. I think the coloring hits Liberty's face at just the right angle, and in an unusual way.

I sure do like that kind of dirty coins.

clevegreg · December 10, 2002 11:12AM

Man that is one dirty a$$ coin

LOL

nwcs · December 10, 2002 11:17AM

I can see where the one coin was to make the rainbow in the lower right, but how did the major color form? It's an inverted rainbow? Do you think dollars shifted in the bag? Shouldn't the rainbow be bending in the other direction?

TONEDDOLLARS · December 10, 2002 11:32AM

I think its a major case of bag toning through air transfer toning. Thats my take on it.

airplanenut · December 10, 2002 11:55AM

Wash it off! Wash it off!!!!!!

nwcs · December 11, 2002 1:06AM

I know that the progression for bag toning should be yellow->magenta->cyan->yellow->magenta->green, but in this, from the inner circle it is green->magenta->green->magenta->yellow. I'm just trying to understand how this occurred since it is not consistent with what I was taught about bag toning. The rainbow in the lower right is very consistent, though. I'm not indicating AT or NT or ET. Just curious to understand how that pattern can emerge. Is the color more vertical than the picture makes it appear? Where in the bag do you think it was positioned? I'm more curious about how it developed than anything else.

TONEDDOLLARS · December 11, 2002 3:55AM

I am really not that sure . Maybe someone else who is more up on this than I could answere.

RotatedRainbows · December 11, 2002 4:26AM

I know that the progression for bag toning should be yellow->magenta->cyan->yellow->magenta->green, but in this, from the inner circle it is green->magenta->green->magenta->yellow. I'm just trying to understand how this occurred since it is not consistent with what I was taught about bag toning.

I am not sure where you came up with that first color scheme but the color pattern on that piece is the basic standard colors you should see on bag toned Morgans forest green>deep purple>green>magenta>yellow>cyan>russet along with the subtle colors in between like blue right were the green turns into magenta. As for the reverse rainbow it probably had something to do with the way the coins around it were positioned so they affected the amount of exposure it had to the canvas bag.

nwcs · December 11, 2002 4:29AM

The color scheme I referred to comes from the Bob Cambell video on AT and natural toning when he discussed rainbow toning and bag toning. Which is why I wanted to learn more.

coinrookie · December 11, 2002 5:25AM

Nice coin. As far as the toning, I am a complete novice. But just because certain experts say this color here in this pattern is this exact type of toning. I think it is fine for a general guide, but I think that there are to many variables to try to narrow toning down to a fomulated scientific action. I think sometimes toning occurs and while you may guess at it, you may never know the true events that made it that way. I am still a white coin type of guy. But I just got my first toned coin and I can really appreciate the beauty. I will never be a collctor of just toned coins. But I look forward to finding a few. Thanks to everyone who posts pictures of toned coins. You have moved me ever so slightly in a direction that I never figured on going.

nwcs · December 11, 2002 7:53AM

True, but it sure makes it frustrating to make an informed decision in buying without wasting tons of $$$ on mistakes. And if the videos and books really don't help much on toning and we all know that many white coins are dipped, what's a collecta to do?