Toned Proof Coins

ajaan

Is it possible to have a very toned proof coin also be Cameo?

nwcs

As long as the toning still allows for a contrast between the devices and fields, I don't see why not. Though it's unlikely for a very toned proof. So I would say no for classic proofs, possibly for modern ones.

braddick

It is. I own a few. Peacock Ikes come to mind (my ICON is CAM'ed by PCGS). I also can think of some Modern Commoratives that even have DCAM surfaces with Rainbow toning (ANACONDA'S 1982-S Washington Commemorative also comes to mind).

Morgans with their DMPL surfaces also qualify- kind of, in appearance.

ajaan

Thank you.

coinguy1

ajaan,

Yes, I have seen a number of toned cameo proof examples of "classic" coins. I have even seen some very lightly toned deep cameo's. The deeper the toning, the more difficult it is to see the contrast, however.

ajaan

I know this isn't a US coin, but on the Slab it says CAM. Am I missing something here?

airplanenut

Supercoin sold a monster PR69DC a few months ago...

rainbowroosie

rainbowroosie

As I was saying before I sent a blank message ---- I have toned sets of dimes, quarters, and halves from 1950-64. All have rainbow colors, about a third are cameos....A deep cameo coin with reds/greens is very, very cool!!

Ronyahski

I assume you are asking if it is possible for a toned proof to be graded Cameo. Yes, it is possible, but frankly, I don't understand the grading services' standards for grading Cameo when it is underneath toning. My guess is they have to see all of the cameo before they grade it as such. For the classic - er, "older" coins with deeper toning, it must be more difficult for them.

The nicest toned proof "older" coin I have ever seen is the Benson Seated dime in PCGS PR67. It is a headlight cameo (I mean white as a sheet, I mean DeepCameo+) with magnificent deep toning, yet no cameo designation. I guess because the toning covers some of the devices, it doesn't get Cameo designation, I don't know.

I don't like to see the Cameo desginated coins command premiums because that seems to encourage dipping toned specimens for profit. Shudder!

mnmcoin

Yep...

Proof, right here!!!

mo <><

osirisMMII

With modern coins..... definitely! Some of my favorite PCGS/NGC Kennedy proof DCAMs are heavily toned. And some of my favorite Jefferson proof are a 1969 and a 1980 PCGS 69DCAM that look like root beer with awesome contrast and mirrors........... but then again I've got a 1967 PCGS SMS MS67CAM that minus the toning would probably be a DCAM!

osirisMMII

Nice coin Morris!