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Can eye appeal be graded?

This question was brought up in another thread but I think it deserves it's own thread, although, I suspect that it will be a short one.

The answer to 'Can eye appeal be graded?' is.....

...of course it can. Take women for example. Martha Stewart is a 5.5. Christie Brinkley in her prime was a 9.99. Bo Derrick in her prime was a 9.75. Hillary Clinton in her prime was a 5.7. Her daugter is a 5.5.

You may not agree with my grades but you are not going to give Hillary a 7 while giving Christie a 6.

adrian

P.S. If you are sensitive to the use of the word "women" in the third paragraph, and the subsequent reference to specific females, then think about it in terms of men using the photographs below as thought provokers: (I've posted many pictures of woman in my offerings, occasionally a change of pace is arguably warranted.)

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....finally.....if you keep coming into my postings and thinking, "Man, I hate this guy....." then why do you keep coming back for more misery???? Why not just get a short stick with some leather straps, tie some nails and razors to it and lash yourself instead????

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  • tjkilliantjkillian Posts: 5,578 ✭✭✭
    Ok, I did what you said, but now my head is all bloody and still can't get those guys out of my mind. Please post some pictures of Hillary as she is MUCH better than any of those guys. I guess I prefer women over men, strange as that might sound from a Californian.

    Still I prefer the better looking coins...

    Tom
    Tom

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  • DEMS SUM BIIIGGG PEACHES BOY.,........................
  • ....sorry!....here's a palette cleanser:

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  • BNEBNE Posts: 772
    Now Adrian, that last picture had to be a "set-up," doncha think?
    "The essence of sleight of hand is distraction and misdirection. If smoeone can be convinced that he has, through his own perspicacity, divined your hidden purposes, he will not look further."

    William S. Burroughs, Cities of the Red Night
  • that last picture of the male species should have come with a warning. I now have to clear the chunks off my key board...
    currently owned by 5 Labradors

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    Onyx - Black male b 3/7/99
    Duchess - Yellow female mix b 3/12/02 rescued 9/18/02
    Rifle - Yellow male mix b 12/1/02 rescued 8/8/03
    Diamond - Black female b 5/3/05 adopted 8/3/05

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  • ARCOARCO Posts: 4,416 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I truly love coins....but I would sell them all for a week with Vendella in barbados!

    Tyler
  • krankykranky Posts: 8,709 ✭✭✭
    I have images disabled on this board (it just displays the links), and I think I just saved myself from a frightening experience. image

    I disagree that eye appeal can be graded - accurately. The problem is that the controversy doesn't arise when it's Christie Brinkley vs. Phyllis Diller. Since all the commotion tends to surround high-end coins, it's more like Meg Ryan vs. Maria Grazia Cucinotta. Both are beautiful. Some prefer the Italian type, some the blonde All-American type. Some like toning, some do not.

    New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.

  • "accurately" - a subjective term. When thrown into the statement, it certainly muddies things up.

    You can grade eye appeal and the grades can then be compared. As long as the grades are accurate in relation to each other, then all is well.

    adrian
  • krankykranky Posts: 8,709 ✭✭✭
    Even disregarding the "accurately" comment, eye appeal is a very subjective thing. I think it IS possible to have a situation where Hillary gets a 7 and Christie gets a 6. Not from everyone, but from some.

    There was a recent post that linked to a Walker with a reverse covered with numerous brown splotches. To me it looked horrible. However, some people found it attractive. I don't think averaging will solve that problem. I would give it a 1 for eye appeal, someone else sees it as an 8. It doesn't mean the coin is a 4.5 (the average of the two), because I don't think anyone would have given it a 4.5. You'd either love it or hate it, and no one in either camp would feel the 4.5 was correct.

    New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.

  • "I think it IS possible to have a situation where Hillary gets a 7 and Christie gets a 6. Not from everyone, but from some."

    Sure it is.


    (Is my response too subtle?)
  • Tyler - how many coins do you have? Really...that many?.....Wow.....I hope you have a good memory because after your weekend with the babe that's all you'll have is memories.

    Even good six doesn't last as long as a bad coin.


    adrian
  • tjkilliantjkillian Posts: 5,578 ✭✭✭
    Thanks for the updated picture, I feel much better. Now about coins, yes eye appeal is very important and is completely independent of grade. One could easily have a PO-01 that is PQ and could also easily have a hideous MS-68.

    Tom

    p.s. Where's my half dollar?
    Tom

  • CLASSICSCLASSICS Posts: 1,164 ✭✭


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    ................former coin collector, all he did was buy new stuff.
  • LanLordLanLord Posts: 11,718 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ohh my eyes, my eyes, myyyy eyessssss.

    LOLOLOLOLOLOL

  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,184 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If a Grade is simply shorthand for Price than by all means Eye Appeal should be a major part of the "Grade" (Price).

    peacockcoins

  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,409 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great pics - lot's of eye candy.

    Eye appeal is important but sometimes is taken too much into consideration, especially by the 3rd party graders trying to "market grade". Too often it trumps technical merits. There are alot of weakly struck, doctored coins with arm-length eye appeal that are over graded as a result. The final arbiter on grading is the bidder/buyer - the open market is where eye appeal and quality are most accurately judged.

    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose.
  • Coin FinderCoin Finder Posts: 7,246 ✭✭✭✭✭
    JUST SAY NO TO CRACK!!

    tBIG

    PS Eye appeal can be graded but it will take some different level of thinking to come up with a one size fits all catagory.
  • Lanlord - who is that beautiful girl?

    CLASSICS - excellent comment. I LOL!

    adrian

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