And now, the end is near; And so I face the final curtain. My friend, I'll say it clear, I'll state my case, of which I'm certain.
I've lived a life that's full. I've traveled each and ev'ry highway; But more, much more than this, I did it my way.
Regrets, I've had a few; But then again, too few to mention. I did what I had to do And saw it through without exemption.
I planned each charted course; Each careful step along the byway, But more, much more than this, I did it my way.
Yes, there were times, I'm sure you knew When I bit off more than I could chew. But through it all, when there was doubt, I ate it up and spit it out. I faced it all and I stood tall; And did it my way.
I've loved, I've laughed and cried. I've had my fill; my share of losing. And now, as tears subside, I find it all so amusing.
To think I did all that; And may I say - not in a shy way, "No, oh no not me, I did it my way".
For what is a man, what has he got? If not himself, then he has naught. To say the things he truly feels; And not the words of one who kneels. The record shows I took the blows - And did it my way!
i haven't seen anyone mention a benefit of the registry that i consider valuable to all.with the certification number there is actual proof of ownership to the extent that if lost in the mails or through theft the card cannot be reentered into another set.i find some security as well as appreciation for my sets organization with PSA's method. also there is a stronger possibility of tracing the thief thanks to the regisrty and the return of the card(s) to their rightful owner!.
Not to forget that in case of a fire or natural disaster, the folks that keep the books at PSA would certainly help on things like insurance claims. (I know, PCGS helped when some of my coins were stolen in 1992!)
It's nice to know, that if I'm not the best recordkeeper around (and I'm not) that PSA is keeping track of my numbers for me.
And the Registry is all free!!!
Larry.
I LOVE FANCY CURRENCY, pretty girls, Disney Dollars, pretty girls, MPC's, ..did I mention pretty girls???
....And while were at it, I remember VARGHA stating that his Bowman set was locked up in a safe deposit box, but he had all the cards scanned in his registry, so he could view them anytime he wanted to at work or home, thats a nice feature...jay
I wonder if anyone collects virtual cards? I wonder how long it would take to collect a set of PSA-8 '52 Topps scans from eBay auctions? Perhaps it is pointless to buy the actual card.
<< <i>I wonder if anyone collects virtual cards? I wonder how long it would take to collect a set of PSA-8 '52 Topps scans from eBay auctions? Perhaps it is pointless to buy the actual card. >>
Bruce, why stop at PSA-8. Here's one to start your virtual collection
(Serial number removed to protect the real owner of this card).
Robert
Looking for: Any high grade OPC Jim Palmer High grade Redskins (pre 1980)
eTopps are actually backed by a real card, so they are no more virtual than a US Treasury certificate. I'm not interested in doing this, I like the real cards. But if someone is going to collect all of the cards, in order to scan them and look at the scans only, why not just collect the scans?
Not a criticism of Vargha, just wondering if anyone *does* like this idea.
Instead of, or in addition to vitual cards.. how about reprint sets ?? I have about ten or twelve sets 1954 Topps regular and Gold the newest and T-206 the oldest. 52 Topps and Bowman are the oldest originals I own . I can view and handle the reprints pretty often without too much concern, although now the 52 Topps reprint set I have is worth a few bucks so some care is needed I guess.
Are there any reprint sets on the registry ? I am thinking of sending for the grading special ( since they were printed in 1994 ) one or two "mint" reprints from the 54 Topps set as I do have dupes. Or are reprints a poor stepchild to originals ? I would think most of us would rather have a reprint of say the 1953 Topps BB set, rather than an original 1988 Topps set. I shrewdly?? have several of both !
This aint no party,... this aint no disco,.. this aint no fooling around.
I think they have some coolness value, but there are some problems. If you are collecting them, they tend to come in complete sets. Buying a complete set is less "collectish" than tracking the cards down individually. If you are slabbing them, you end up paying multiples of what the set is worth in order to slab them, which is *objectively* a little more stupid than what we card collectors ordinarily do.
If you are talking about paying, say, approximately nothing per card, plus $5 per card to slab them, that's going to be like $1400+ in grading fees in order to create thing that is of dubious resale value.
A complete set of '53 Topps is valued at something like $2900 in VG, at least according to the way I compute value. I bet that you could put together the whole set for something approaching $1400, if you were willing to spend a lot of time and buy wisely.
Would you rather have a set of slabbed reprints (some of which would probably be 8's), or a raw VG set of the originals?
Why didn't someone mention this virtual card collecting option sooner? I could have saved many 1000s of dollars over the past few years - and I'd have a complete PSA set of at least one year (which I currently don't have in "physical" cards). Maybe PSA could start grading "virtual" cards - they would all have to come with a "vt" qualifier though.
<< <i>Why didn't someone mention this virtual card collecting option sooner? I could have saved many 1000s of dollars over the past few years - and I'd have a complete PSA set of at least one year (which I currently don't have in "physical" cards). Maybe PSA could start grading "virtual" cards - they would all have to come with a "vt" qualifier though.
JEB. >>
Someone already beat you to it believe it or not. They grade scans off eBay and put the card in a virtual holder. I wonder if somebody actually pays for that kind of "service"?
$1400 is out of touch for what? Full Beckett for '53 Topps is $19,000. What do you pay for VG cards? Beckett says 15-30%. 15% is $2900. Maybe $1400 is crazy, but I don't really care. My point is that you could get this stuff in low grade raw for something *similar* to what you'd pay to slab a set of reprints. If I'm off by a power of two, what I said is still true.
There are about a hundred '53 Topps cards that have sold for $1 or less on eBay in the past month.
<< <i>There are about a hundred '53 Topps cards that have sold for $1 or less on eBay in the past month. >>
With shipping? When I needed them for packages, I had to pay $4-5, and I wasn't flooded with them either. Got them, but I didn't have people pounding down my door.
If you can find a clean VG '53T set for $2200-2500, you're doing pretty good. Most of the ones I've seen less than that are UGLY. And you're generally looking $3K+ to get a solid VG/VG+ set.
Nevertheless, I certainly agree that even spending 2x the price is a much better value than grading a reprint set...
Why do I get the feeling, that some cards are worth money, while others are not?
What's the best way to crack a virtual slab? I'd like to then take the raw virtual card to a major virtual show and have it virtually reslabbed. I'd eventually like to do this with a large quantity of future non-existant virtual cards; however, I don't want to incur a huge beam-up fee.
There is an unregulated, unmonitored, etc., grading service, OGS which will "grade" scans of cards. Perhaps they may start a virtual registry ! There is also a book published perhaps 15 years ago, which pictures every Topps BB card through something like 1985. In addition there are SURF books which are done by team and show all Topps cards for that particular team. There are some cheaper, less enjoyable, alternatives to actual collecting of original cards
I guess it would be silly to have PSA grade and encapsulate my 52 Mantle or T-206 Wagner reprints, a semi-rigid holder will do fine, but wasn't it silly several years back to consider grading 81 Topps commons ?
This aint no party,... this aint no disco,.. this aint no fooling around.
Just to clarify, my 1951 Bowman set was kept in the safe deposit box for card safety (fire, theft, wife, etc.). I still could pull them out at any time to view. However, I could "view" my actual cards because of the scans at any time on the Set Registry.
I've been doing "virtual sets" for a while. As print runs on cards have gotten lower and lower, down to 1/1s, recent card collecting has become more akin to bird-watching than the traditional hobby, where you just see one and cross it off your life list, not having to actually acquire it. I do the same thing with rare and expensive cards like Legendary Cuts and bat barrels, and will one day build a website with a database of the images, but it looks like someone was more motivated than I. I started out with Game-used cards, then limited that to HOFer game-used, but now even that category is overgrown.
Did you know that, by my count, 107 HOFers have a game-used card of some sort? It's a nice subset to collect, even in unslabbed form.
WANTED: 2005 Origins Old Judge Brown #/20 and Black 1/1s, 2000 Ultimate Victory Gold #/25 2004 UD Legends Bake McBride autos & parallels, and 1974 Topps #601 PSA 9 Rare Grady Sizemore parallels, printing plates, autographs
Bobs, I was being sarcastic, I realize no card grader is actually regulated, unlike coin graders who do have a loose form of standards monitored by a national association.
I have made numerous posts/replies regarding the fact that novice hobbyists get turned off to card collecting when they obtain an XYZ Co. graded mint card and find out it is nearly worthless. Doctors, plumbers, cab drivers, etc. have some kind of training and accrediting, but one can start an "expert" grading company with no qualifications whatsoever.
By the way, your prior posting footnote re Ted Williams was great, how about bringing it back occasionally ?
This aint no party,... this aint no disco,.. this aint no fooling around.
Comments
VERY well said and true on EVERY aspect!
Larry.
email....emards4457@msn.com
CHEERS!!
Great write-up!
Website: http://www.qualitycards.com
Very well put . I dont think it could of been said any better
Randy
Since I didn't get one...if anyone wants to donate theirs to me...it will give me the inspiration necessary to continue collecting.
Regards,
Alan
And now, the end is near;
And so I face the final curtain.
My friend, I'll say it clear,
I'll state my case, of which I'm certain.
I've lived a life that's full.
I've traveled each and ev'ry highway;
But more, much more than this,
I did it my way.
Regrets, I've had a few;
But then again, too few to mention.
I did what I had to do
And saw it through without exemption.
I planned each charted course;
Each careful step along the byway,
But more, much more than this,
I did it my way.
Yes, there were times, I'm sure you knew
When I bit off more than I could chew.
But through it all, when there was doubt,
I ate it up and spit it out.
I faced it all and I stood tall;
And did it my way.
I've loved, I've laughed and cried.
I've had my fill; my share of losing.
And now, as tears subside,
I find it all so amusing.
To think I did all that;
And may I say - not in a shy way,
"No, oh no not me,
I did it my way".
For what is a man, what has he got?
If not himself, then he has naught.
To say the things he truly feels;
And not the words of one who kneels.
The record shows I took the blows -
And did it my way!
True.
Very true, but does it explain why I collect short sets?
that i consider valuable to all.with the certification
number there is actual proof of ownership to the extent
that if lost in the mails or through theft the card cannot
be reentered into another set.i find some security as well
as appreciation for my sets organization with PSA's method.
also there is a stronger possibility of tracing the thief
thanks to the regisrty and the return of the card(s) to their
rightful owner!.
<< <i>"I don't measure my condom size by the number of awards I have or failed to get" >>
<< <i>Very true, but does it explain why I collect short sets? >>
LMAO!
Not to forget that in case of a fire or natural disaster, the folks that keep the books at PSA would certainly help on things like insurance claims. (I know, PCGS helped when some of my coins were stolen in 1992!)
It's nice to know, that if I'm not the best recordkeeper around (and I'm not) that PSA is keeping track of my numbers for me.
And the Registry is all free!!!
Larry.
email....emards4457@msn.com
CHEERS!!
Website: http://www.qualitycards.com
bruce
Website: http://www.brucemo.com
Email: brucemo@seanet.com
<< <i>I wonder if anyone collects virtual cards? >>
Called eTopps!
Which makes as much sense to me as anything else in this hobby!!
<< <i>I wonder if anyone collects virtual cards? I wonder how long it would take to collect a set of PSA-8 '52 Topps scans from eBay auctions? Perhaps it is pointless to buy the actual card. >>
Bruce, why stop at PSA-8. Here's one to start your virtual collection
(Serial number removed to protect the real owner of this card).
Robert
Any high grade OPC Jim Palmer
High grade Redskins (pre 1980)
Alexandria, Va
Vayank@aol.com
Building a SGC 1977 Topps Set.
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Not a criticism of Vargha, just wondering if anyone *does* like this idea.
bruce
Website: http://www.brucemo.com
Email: brucemo@seanet.com
The only real problem I see with doing a virtual collection, is that all the scans will be different and out of your control.
Robert
Any high grade OPC Jim Palmer
High grade Redskins (pre 1980)
check this out for your viewing pleasure. Virtural Sets
chris
bruce
Website: http://www.brucemo.com
Email: brucemo@seanet.com
I have about ten or twelve sets 1954 Topps regular and Gold the newest and T-206 the oldest.
52 Topps and Bowman are the oldest originals I own . I can view and handle the reprints pretty often without too much concern, although now the 52 Topps reprint set I have is worth a few bucks so some care is needed I guess.
Are there any reprint sets on the registry ? I am thinking of sending for the grading special ( since they were printed in 1994 ) one or two "mint" reprints from the 54 Topps set as I do have dupes. Or are reprints a poor stepchild to originals ? I would think most of us would rather have a reprint of say the 1953 Topps BB set, rather than an original 1988 Topps set. I shrewdly?? have several of both !
If you are talking about paying, say, approximately nothing per card, plus $5 per card to slab them, that's going to be like $1400+ in grading fees in order to create thing that is of dubious resale value.
A complete set of '53 Topps is valued at something like $2900 in VG, at least according to the way I compute value. I bet that you could put together the whole set for something approaching $1400, if you were willing to spend a lot of time and buy wisely.
Would you rather have a set of slabbed reprints (some of which would probably be 8's), or a raw VG set of the originals?
bruce
Website: http://www.brucemo.com
Email: brucemo@seanet.com
Thank you very much. I'll be here all week. Is this thing on?
JEB.
<< <i>Why didn't someone mention this virtual card collecting option sooner? I could have saved many 1000s of dollars over the past few years - and I'd have a complete PSA set of at least one year (which I currently don't have in "physical" cards). Maybe PSA could start grading "virtual" cards - they would all have to come with a "vt" qualifier though.
JEB. >>
Someone already beat you to it believe it or not. They grade scans off eBay and put the card in a virtual holder. I wonder if somebody actually pays for that kind of "service"?
There are about a hundred '53 Topps cards that have sold for $1 or less on eBay in the past month.
bruce
Website: http://www.brucemo.com
Email: brucemo@seanet.com
<< <i>There are about a hundred '53 Topps cards that have sold for $1 or less on eBay in the past month. >>
With shipping? When I needed them for packages, I had to pay $4-5, and I wasn't flooded with them either. Got them, but I didn't have people pounding down my door.
If you can find a clean VG '53T set for $2200-2500, you're doing pretty good. Most of the ones I've seen less than that are UGLY. And you're generally looking $3K+ to get a solid VG/VG+ set.
Nevertheless, I certainly agree that even spending 2x the price is a much better value than grading a reprint set...
BOTR
There is also a book published perhaps 15 years ago, which pictures every Topps BB card through something like 1985. In addition there are SURF books which are done by team and show all Topps cards for that particular team. There are some cheaper, less enjoyable, alternatives to actual collecting of original cards
I guess it would be silly to have PSA grade and encapsulate my 52 Mantle or T-206 Wagner reprints, a semi-rigid holder will do fine, but wasn't it silly several years back to consider grading 81 Topps commons ?
Did you know that, by my count, 107 HOFers have a game-used card of some sort? It's a nice subset to collect, even in unslabbed form.
2005 Origins Old Judge Brown #/20 and Black 1/1s, 2000 Ultimate Victory Gold #/25
2004 UD Legends Bake McBride autos & parallels, and 1974 Topps #601 PSA 9
Rare Grady Sizemore parallels, printing plates, autographs
Nothing on ebay
<< <i>There is an unregulated, unmonitored, etc., grading service, >>
Which grading service is regulated or monitored?
CU turns its lonely eyes to you
What's the you say, Mrs Robinson
Vargha bucks have left and gone away?
hey hey hey
hey hey hey
I was being sarcastic, I realize no card grader is actually regulated, unlike coin graders who do have a loose form of standards monitored by a national association.
I have made numerous posts/replies regarding the fact that novice hobbyists get turned off to card collecting when they obtain an XYZ Co. graded mint card and find out it is nearly worthless. Doctors, plumbers, cab drivers, etc. have some kind of training and accrediting, but one can start an "expert" grading company with no qualifications whatsoever.
By the way, your prior posting footnote re Ted Williams was great, how about bringing it back occasionally ?