I have some questions for Mr. Hall

mnmcoin

First, you mentioned in another thread that bulk are graded differently and placed in tubes in the grading room...this scares me, but mostly just on the proof coins. Without explaining why, I am sure you understand why it scares me. I spoke to Rick M. a few weeks ago, because I was getting ready to start sending in a bunch (a few thousand over the next few months) of proof coins (1950-1971) and wanted to use the bulk service, he told me that I could use flips just like I would in normal Economy-Walkthrough service. I guess my question is just a sort of plea for clarification...I mean would the be taken out of the flips and put in tubes or what? Also when telling this to a few other collector/dealers such as myself, I was told they always thought you could do bulk in flips vs. tubes anyway, so a little clarity would help on that as well.

Second, I have always heard the notion that proof coins (mind you I deal in what I like to call semi-modern 1930-1971 proof and ms coinage, so that is where my mindset is) that have some nice cameo contrast, but not quite enough to get the designation are "bumped" up a grade for the cameo, what is your postion on this. I have always been explained that yes the cameo can help the overall appearance of the coin itself so it would be justified if done so.

Third, what type of lighting do the graders use, what type do you use, and what type do you recommend, if something other than the two previous answers.

Fourth, I noticed that you seem to be dealing quite a bit in the semi modern coins, what is your impression on this segment in the market. Obviously there are two schools of thought on the subject, one being that they are just a waste and the other that they are not. I personally feel the second one, but I would greatly love to hear if you feel these kinds of coins are hear to stay.

Fifth, not really a question but more of a request. The toning subjet seems to be a pretty hot button recently, not only here but in the industry as well and I think most feel PCGS has not really been vocal on any standards that they use to determine to the best of there ability real or at. I think it would be great for a class or seminar or just something simple even (brochure, write-up, etc.) on some tips or whatever. I know knowledge is king in this business and I feel something like this would help us amatures stop buying raw at'd material and thus cut into the doctor's gains.

Sixth, NGC has NCS, does PCGS have any plans of a "conservation" service. I for one like the ability to have professional coin conservators at my disposal, but right now prefer to have the majority of my coins graded by PCGS (sorry, I am one of the stark loyalists)

Also, I really second the concept of having an explaination for grades and non-grades. I can also appreciate your lack of knowing excactly how to implement it. Something like this should definitely have some careful thought put into it. Perhaps the best thing to do is not feel that everycoin needs the explaination, but maybe on bodybagged coins, as well as a service that would allow submission of coins that people felt needed an explaination. Something similar to a designation review or really any other service...but instead of grading the coin, the grader would just put into words their thought process. This formalized review sheet could be forwarded to the submitter back with the coin. I feel this would be a huge advantage for PCGS in so many ways, especially marketing wise and in helping to provide knowledge for collectors that would again benefit the coin industry as a whole.

I for one second the notion that Anaconda put out, this is like early chrismas. I am so tickled that a man of Mr. Halls caliber would actually wallow in the mud with us "weenies." I am really excited that PCGS is really taking this sort of step, I guess breaking down the walls between PCGS and collectors/dealers. As mentioned above it is true, I feel PCGS has a superior product, especially in what I deal in and collect (semi-modern 1930-1971, proof and ms) But sorry to say the wall started to get built between me and PCGS, and I am estatic at the notion of what is going on in this board. (Plus, Mr. Halls timing was impecable, what with all the trolling and flaming going on, that I was getting sick of) I mean, I have to pinch myself...this is unreal.

Okay, all for now (3 a.m. here in LA, couldn't sleep) I know I have more questions and thoughts, but this is a good start.

Yippee, this is so cool.

morris <><

mnmcoin

This silence is not golden!

mo <><

nwcs

I've wondered about this, too. Though I am not a bulk submitter, I'm confused by the original statement about tubes.

Russ

<< <i>I for one like the ability to have professional coin conservators at my disposal, but right now prefer to have the majority of my coins graded by PCGS (sorry, I am one of the stark loyalists) >>



Morris,

Having NCS conserve a coin does not preclude you from submitting it to PCGS.

Russ, NCNE

mnmcoin

I was told that you get some sort of special price on NCS and NGC grading when submitted...so I was basing that on this.

morris <><

gmarguli

you mentioned in another thread that bulk are graded differently and placed in tubes in the grading room...this scares me

That scared the hell out of me also.

I would also like clarification on the bulk submission procedures. I've been told 100 & 200 coin minimums. I've been told $8 & $6 grading fees. I've been told there is a minimum overall fee. I've been told it is based on grade.

I would like a list of coins graded under the bulk service. I would like the minimum number of coins required. I would like prices in relation to the denomination/grade wanted/quantity.

I would like to know how many dates/mint marks are allowed in one submission.

Why isn't this on the web site under list of services?

robertpr

For the record, it scared the hell out of me as well. There are already enough complaints about PCGS mishandling coins out there.