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What do you Franklin people think of this half?

RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
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I'm thinking about a modern proof type set so, of course, I'd need a Frankie. This one looks pretty good, even though the seller edited the fields to hide some spotting. Is the strike good? Contrast good? It's in a PCGS 67CAM holder. Value?

Russ, NCNE

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  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,148 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like it... the HepKitty should also approve- looks like a dip candidate!
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  • PlacidPlacid Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭
    It's pretty nice maybe $80-90, not the greatest but if you are only going to get one why not get a dcam? image
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>why not get a dcam? >>



    I'm poor.

    Russ, NCNE
  • nice coin a quick dip will cure his hazey fields.
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  • DHeathDHeath Posts: 8,472 ✭✭✭
    hmmm. It graded what?image
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  • PlacidPlacid Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭
    Nevermind image
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Placid,

    Bookmarked. Thanks.

    Russ, NCNE
  • pmh1nicpmh1nic Posts: 3,275 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Proof Set? Didn't you read Anaconda's thread explaining that intelligent people collect toned coins. You really meant a toned proof set, right image.
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  • Well, at least most of the touch-ups were on the reverse. Here's a look at the alterations.
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  • gmarguligmarguli Posts: 2,225 ✭✭
    I don't know if the seller mentioed the photo touch up, but if he didn't then I would not buy anything from him. Don't support scammers and scumbags!
  • robertprrobertpr Posts: 6,862 ✭✭✭
    Russ,

    That looks pretty nice. The '63 is the second easiest to find in CAM, if memory serves, with the '62 being the easiest. Still, they're not easy to find. Spotting is a common problem with the Franklins and while I don't see any, the photo was altered. I have a suspicion that was more to remove scanner artifacts than milk spots though. I'd buy it. As others have said, a quick dip would cure the fields and maybe even result in a dcam grade. Of course you'd have to see it in person to determine if it could go dcam.
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Greg,

    No, he didn't mention it in the auction, and he's also not very good at it. It was very easy to spot.

    Russ, NCNE
  • DHeathDHeath Posts: 8,472 ✭✭✭
    Russ, his feedback isn't too shabby though. I neg and a few neutrals out of 1200 transactions. Did you email him? He looks to be a dealer.
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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Don,

    Not yet. I wanted to get some opinions from you guys first. Besides the editing, there are a couple other things I want to clarify with him - return policy, and what kind of shipping/packaging for only $1.50.

    Russ, NCNE
  • The devices definitely have DCAM frost. Even with haze in the fields a coin with deep mirrors will still grade DCAM. The mirrors must be too shallow to get a DCAM even if dipped, IMO.

    Still Russ, I've seen scans of some of the coins you've dipped and you are the man!!! If I ever decide to dip one of my proofs you'll be the guy I call.
  • LucyBopLucyBop Posts: 14,001 ✭✭✭
    I like this coin as well, and it does appear DCAM but as another member stated the mirrors may not be deep enough. This coin would certianly be a dip candidate, I have several in my collection that need a quick dip......It's a pretty coin and if the price is good, go for it! I was fortunate enough to purchase a stunning 63 for $10 that graded pr68DCAM..... I just happened to be at the right place at the right time...
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  • dorkkarldorkkarl Posts: 12,691 ✭✭✭
    spots? you sure that ain't frostbite?

    K S
  • Doesn't dipping hurt a coin and if not, what is the agent and technique; without going into great detail.
  • BIGDAVEBIGDAVE Posts: 1,764 ✭✭✭
    Russ If You Dont Get That One I will sell this to you it has a milk spot on the obv, the rev is spotless, the holder is scratched not the coin..



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  • 1956 Franklins are also pretty available in cameo. I wouldn't bother with one that has spots and haze as there are many available with no problems.
  • Do I see a vague finger print on the reverse, right side? Ha, never caught that photo touch up the first time I looked at this thread!
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    ClausUrch,

    If done properly, dipping won't hurt most coins. Some are NOT dip candidates, though. If done improperly, it can ruin a coin. There are a lot of threads on this issue with valuable information in them. Just do a search with "dip" or "dipping" in the title.

    As a quick note on this, since there is an example in this thread, dipping will not remove milk spots - at least not any method I've yet tried - without damaging the surface of the coin. NCS is pretty good at dramatically reducing them, but even they cannot remove them completely.

    Russ, NCNE
  • GilbertGilbert Posts: 1,533 ✭✭✭
    Russ

    I would pass on the doctored photo one. I don't want to discourage the offer made by BigDave, but I would look at a few 63 proof sets and try to make the coin, unless it has to be 68 or 69 DCAM. I have a 66CAM that looks great IMO. You can get a spotless CAM relatively easily. Oh, ... I have yet to successfully dip a "milkspot" away without impairing the reflectivity of the fields.
    Gilbert

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