Hehe well at least normal people get to benefit monitarily from a successful case with your choice of law. You could have been like Johnny Cocran (swear filter wouldn't let me spell his last name correctly, as well it shouldn't lol), providing a means of freedom for guilty-as-hell, low-life maggot-infested scum, murderous ex-football players. I wonder how well HE sleeps at night!
The puritans used to believe that it was sinful for a guy to buy something at one price and then sell it for a profit.
Ministers would be unnecessary if we didn't _________________ (you fill in the blank - I don't want to re-direct this thread)
Coin dealers - we all know they are the evilest of the evil (but many of us dream about being one).
Soldiers kill people but protect us.
I think the problem with personal injury lawyers are the TV advertisers - constantly trolling for cases and being in our face so much. That's one reason I don't advertise on TV - it wouldn't make my Mom proud, which is one of my criteria for life. If my parents would be ashamed of something I'm considering doing, I tend to avoid it.
By the way, feel free to call my office (1-800-444-8810) and test my ethics. Call up and pretend you're a potential client. I think you'll find me a little different than what your worst suspicions might be.
Medicine - the only profession where the government mandates you give your services away for free (or else face a $50,000 fine plus sanctions)) and the lawyers sue you for doing so...it's a great life....good thing the applicants are so naive o/w no one would do it.
Back to the topic - where did you get those great books - do people save them for you or do you find them at the dealers table?? For every hour enjoying the coins, I enjoy 5 hours reading about them....any tips on finding the rare ones would be appreciated.
"My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose.
JLW; What side of the law are you on? I felt that way about police when I was a rebellious youth, but that was a long time ago now.
I have met plenty of arrogant brickheaded cops in my day, but there has not been a day in my adult life that I wished they did not exist.
Infact everyone else on the list so far seems more necessary then evil other then the Lawyers. Don't get me wrong America would not be the place it is without them. It is obvious however that the practice has become a means to its own end, not just a way to controll injustice in our society.
How to fix that I am not sure. How about a class action suit against all the Lawyers that have occluded to price fix at exorbitant rates over the past years. If we can show that the rates have harmed all of society maybe we can shut them all down and do what they are suppose to do for our great land. That is control the strong from harming the weak.
<< <i>JLW; What side of the law are you on? I felt that way about police when I was a rebellious youth, but that was a long time ago now. >>
I am a total law and order guy and all around good citizen, but power corrupts ultimately or ultimate power corrupts, (take your pick). Cops can lie, cheat, and steal just like all other humans. I've made the point before, why do you think they have locks on their lockers? Remember, I said they were a necessary evil, I wouldn't want to live in our society without them. Unfortunately, it is their presence, and not morals that keep people from perpetrating all sorts of crimes. Joe P.S. Lot's of good cops out there, my brother-in-law is one of them!
Lakesammman; You know about COBRA the unfunded federal mandate that makes me a comrade in this Socialist Regime. But you are right this is suppose to be a coin forum. That went out the window yesterday but we should probably get back to it.
Years ago, I bought some beef pot pies at the grocery store. Baked them and sat down to dinner. Took a big bite of one and chomped down on a large industrial staple that dug in to the side of my mouth. Minor injury, no big deal, but I figured I'd better call the company and give them a heads up so they could look in to it. So, I wrote down the batch number from the box.
Next day, I called and asked for the risk management department. Talked to a gal and explained what happened, as well as providing all the information; batch number, variety, place/date of purchase, etc. Her response? "I'm sorry, I can't discuss this, you will need to have your attorney call us".
Huh? That's the automatic response now? I tried to explain to her that I had no intention of retaining a lawyer for something this inconsequential, and just wanted to let them know. SHE DIDN"T BELIEVE ME.
That's the way things are now. One cannot do the right thing without the other party assuming there is some ulterior motive.
I didn't get the part about "We don't advertize on TV", but now I think I understand the difference...
You're not on the street running after the ambulance, you just place an ad where someone looking for your services can find you.
As a rule, I still don't generally like personal injury lawyers (what is it now a days, they want 30% to 50% of the money they just argued is owed to someone else?), but I can appreciate the difference between the lawyers with the annoying TV comercials trying to drum-up business verses your ad... that earns some respect in my book.
Ooh, Ooh, a chance for me to relay my favorite Doctor/Lawyer sob story!
A family member of mine recently (about 2 years ago) went through a terrible ordeal involving surgery and post operation in-home care, that was all a direct result of her doctor misdiagnosing an infection that she had. The misdiagnosis and subsequent pain were well documented, right down to having photographs taken (my suggestion.) When she contacted a P/I attorney, he was so willing to take the case, he practically jumped right through the phone! Afterall, this was a "slam dunk."
One minor problem. After doing initial research, the attorney told her he wouldn't take the case. The reason: the doctor had no mal-practice insurance, and all her assests were in her husband's name. Mind you, the doctor wasn't passing on any savings from her substantial overhead reduction (by not having mal-practice insurance.) She just had nothing to lose if she was sued, and lost.
By the way, this family member was self employed and the entire ordeal sent her into a financial tailspin that her and her family have yet to recover from.
"The essence of sleight of hand is distraction and misdirection. If smoeone can be convinced that he has, through his own perspicacity, divined your hidden purposes, he will not look further."
In fairness, there are stupid, stupid defenses, too.
MY clients have good ones, though.
"The essence of sleight of hand is distraction and misdirection. If smoeone can be convinced that he has, through his own perspicacity, divined your hidden purposes, he will not look further."
Jim - I will de-block you if you give me your word in this thread, right now, that you won't neg me gratuitously.
DMW -- I think saying 'I and my staff have never been sanctioned for unethical behavior' is more persuasive then saying 'I and my staff have never engaged in unethical behavior'. That's why I said what I said. Is there anything else I could possibly say that would be more persuasive as to my character? Would "A recent 100 million dollar study commissioned by Harvard has identified the Texas laws that were ethical and fair those that were not, and it has been determined with as low as a 4% error rate that Adrian has adhered to those that were ethical and fair"???
I challenge anyone to find just one thread where I have attacked someone who wasn?t already attacking me first. JUST ONE THREAD. Take the challenge.
This could go on forever. Forever. That?s not what we have on this earth. Time is precious. I don?t want to squander it bantering over this.
i must say i am impressed at the new leaf you appear to have turned over.
if i read the chronology correctly at one time you were a practicing attorney. you only worked for "clients" by which i assume you refer to people with enough money to pay for your services before they walked through your front door. these people presumably had "real problems" like estate issues, business deals or other high finance problems. this was a job at which you derived satisfaction but not a good income, so you went into the "healthcare" industry where you have a "blossoming" career. this is, apparently, where the money you were seeking is. how you are helping people with health issues is not readily apparent from your posts, but we'll guess that you are doing good things for people.
further, you now feel the need to get in the larva-encrusted trench here on the coinboard to defend the powerless against the mighty wordslinging snake. those who perhaps wouldn't have been deemed worthy "clients" when you were practicing the noble version of the art of law (rather than the despicable "jury lotto" i believe you called it, form) are now important enough to defend. bravo.
i must hand it to you in your current choice of legal representation, as well, as you seem to have hired a law firm unscrupulous enough to charge their "clients" a day and a half at a time, and incompetent enough to let them know it. worthy of a second bravo.
I would have to buy something from you first to leave a Neg. and the odds of that are about 1000/1. I treat my e-bay transactions seriously , I have pretty decent feedback. I offer qiuck service and pay even quicker. You have no reason to think I would handle a transaction with you any different. Taking that into account and the 1000/1 odds I will say most definately that you would not receive a neg. from me. As a matter of fact I said even though your a snakey little jerk with a big mouth I know your honest, fair and would still recommend you.
<< <i>I have never been sanctioned by any court anywhere for that offense. In fact, I have never been sanctioned by any court any where for anything. >>
Most drunk drivers have never received a DWI either.
Don and Zenny,
Your real beef should be with the individual who posted this thread in the US Coin forum - where it does not belong.
<< <i>hmmm, you've posted to this thread 4 times and i've posted to it twice. >>
And, that is relevant because?
I'm not the one attacking Doug for handing Anaconda what he has repeatedly earned, and clearly expects, by virtue of his calculated and deliberate actions at this forum.
Slash, bash, name call, personal attacks and continued immature behavior. DMW, clean it up.
Tell me Russ, was there ANY legitimate purpose behind your post, other than to inflame? No answer required. Everyone on the Forum sees it for what it is.
I see DCAMTroll has popped his empty head in to the thread. Tell me. Do you even own a coin? We've certainly never seen any evidence of anything other than big talk.
I would say that "proving" something to a mindless twit, such as yourself, would go on my list of things to do right behind remembering to grab a magazine prior to taking a seat on the throne.
So, was there ANY legitimate purpose behind your posts, other than to inflame?
Yep, DCAMTroll, I knew before you put your greasy fingers to the keyboard exactly what your response would be. You're nothing but a poser, and every thinking person at this BBS knows it.
<< <i>So, was there ANY legitimate purpose behind your posts, other than to inflame? >>
With my apologies to "The Bard" - "Methinks he doth protest too much."
The mirror speaks many truths, all of them needing no words.
I for one, had great enthusiasm for coin collecting until recently. I think I'm getting over it. Thanks a bunch for making this so pleasant a place to relax and enjoy a hobby.
Has it ever once entered that tiny little brain that there may well be a reason that people come at you the way they do? If you were even a fraction of the "man" you fancy yourself - you'd apologize for being such a Category I dickhead, and become a contributor.
As for me - I apologize to the board membership for allowing this pencil-dick to get under my skin enough to play along with his moronic little flame-games. I should have known better, and still fell into it. I suppose that will make the intellectual pygmy feel mighty, and important. What a character commentary.
There's a bunch of great folks here - but... It just "ain't worth it."
One way to avoid the posts you may not like is to think twice about opening a thread that does not have a coin related subject...oh and think three times about opening ones with more than 50 replies.
Time sure flies when you don't know what you are doing...
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Lawyers, like the police, used-car salesmen, and realtors, are all necessary evils!
Joe
An open mind will support transformation.
Recognize life is full of change
and celebrate the opportunity.
"There is always a way to collect,Never surrender the hobby"
Ministers would be unnecessary if we didn't _________________ (you fill in the blank - I don't want to re-direct this thread)
Coin dealers - we all know they are the evilest of the evil (but many of us dream about being one).
Soldiers kill people but protect us.
I think the problem with personal injury lawyers are the TV advertisers - constantly trolling for cases and being in our face so much. That's one reason I don't advertise on TV - it wouldn't make my Mom proud, which is one of my criteria for life. If my parents would be ashamed of something I'm considering doing, I tend to avoid it.
By the way, feel free to call my office (1-800-444-8810) and test my ethics. Call up and pretend you're a potential client. I think you'll find me a little different than what your worst suspicions might be.
adrian
Back to the topic - where did you get those great books - do people save them for you or do you find them at the dealers table?? For every hour enjoying the coins, I enjoy 5 hours reading about them....any tips on finding the rare ones would be appreciated.
I have met plenty of arrogant brickheaded cops in my day, but there has not been a day in my adult life that I wished they did not exist.
Infact everyone else on the list so far seems more necessary then evil other then the Lawyers. Don't get me wrong America would not be the place it is without them. It is obvious however that the practice has become a means to its own end, not just a way to controll injustice in our society.
How to fix that I am not sure. How about a class action suit against all the Lawyers that have occluded to price fix at exorbitant rates over the past years. If we can show that the rates have harmed all of society maybe we can shut them all down and do what they are suppose to do for our great land. That is control the strong from harming the weak.
Maybe we could get really rich doing it too!
<< <i>Tawl....... Is that a word? >>
It is when your name is too-tawl!!!
<< <i>JLW; What side of the law are you on? I felt that way about police when I was a rebellious youth, but that was a long time ago now. >>
I am a total law and order guy and all around good citizen, but power corrupts ultimately or ultimate power corrupts, (take your pick). Cops can lie, cheat, and steal just like all other humans. I've made the point before, why do you think they have locks on their lockers? Remember, I said they were a necessary evil, I wouldn't want to live in our society without them. Unfortunately, it is their presence, and not morals that keep people from perpetrating all sorts of crimes.
Joe
P.S. Lot's of good cops out there, my brother-in-law is one of them!
Years ago, I bought some beef pot pies at the grocery store. Baked them and sat down to dinner. Took a big bite of one and chomped down on a large industrial staple that dug in to the side of my mouth. Minor injury, no big deal, but I figured I'd better call the company and give them a heads up so they could look in to it. So, I wrote down the batch number from the box.
Next day, I called and asked for the risk management department. Talked to a gal and explained what happened, as well as providing all the information; batch number, variety, place/date of purchase, etc. Her response? "I'm sorry, I can't discuss this, you will need to have your attorney call us".
Huh? That's the automatic response now? I tried to explain to her that I had no intention of retaining a lawyer for something this inconsequential, and just wanted to let them know. SHE DIDN"T BELIEVE ME.
That's the way things are now. One cannot do the right thing without the other party assuming there is some ulterior motive.
Russ, NCNE
Unfortunately, we see a lot of that very same thing on this board.
Joe.
How much did you collect for the staple in the mouth???
<< <i>How much did you collect for the staple in the mouth??? >>
Nothing.
Russ, NCNE
You're not on the street running after the ambulance, you just place an ad where someone looking for your services can find you.
As a rule, I still don't generally like personal injury lawyers (what is it now a days, they want 30% to 50% of the money they just argued is owed to someone else?), but I can appreciate the difference between the lawyers with the annoying TV comercials trying to drum-up business verses your ad... that earns some respect in my book.
Take care for now,
adrian
A family member of mine recently (about 2 years ago) went through a terrible ordeal involving surgery and post operation in-home care, that was all a direct result of her doctor misdiagnosing an infection that she had. The misdiagnosis and subsequent pain were well documented, right down to having photographs taken (my suggestion.) When she contacted a P/I attorney, he was so willing to take the case, he practically jumped right through the phone! Afterall, this was a "slam dunk."
One minor problem. After doing initial research, the attorney told her he wouldn't take the case. The reason: the doctor had no mal-practice insurance, and all her assests were in her husband's name. Mind you, the doctor wasn't passing on any savings from her substantial overhead reduction (by not having mal-practice insurance.) She just had nothing to lose if she was sued, and lost.
By the way, this family member was self employed and the entire ordeal sent her into a financial tailspin that her and her family have yet to recover from.
You wanna take this one, Adrian?
Soon.......
adrian
I think they at least owe you a new pot pie. But, I'm a programmer, not a lawyer.
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William S. Burroughs, Cities of the Red Night
of creation.If everyone stopped looking at each other like
a piece of LINT, then maybe we could stop picking at one another.
Camelot
<< <i>There are plenty of stupid, stupid cases >>
Filed by PI lawyers.
Russ, NCNE
MY clients have good ones, though.
William S. Burroughs, Cities of the Red Night
(For me, it is to be.)
adrian crane
State Bar of Texas number 05005800
DMW -- I think saying 'I and my staff have never been sanctioned for unethical behavior' is more persuasive then saying 'I and my staff have never engaged in unethical behavior'. That's why I said what I said. Is there anything else I could possibly say that would be more persuasive as to my character? Would "A recent 100 million dollar study commissioned by Harvard has identified the Texas laws that were ethical and fair those that were not, and it has been determined with as low as a 4% error rate that Adrian has adhered to those that were ethical and fair"???
I challenge anyone to find just one thread where I have attacked someone who wasn?t already attacking me first. JUST ONE THREAD. Take the challenge.
This could go on forever. Forever. That?s not what we have on this earth. Time is precious. I don?t want to squander it bantering over this.
Peace.
adrian
anaconda.rare.coins (on eBay)
Mr. Wright, Jr.
i must say i am impressed at the new leaf you appear to have turned over.
if i read the chronology correctly at one time you were a practicing attorney. you only worked for "clients" by which i assume you refer to people with enough money to pay for your services before they walked through your front door. these people presumably had "real problems" like estate issues, business deals or other high finance problems. this was a job at which you derived satisfaction but not a good income, so you went into the "healthcare" industry where you have a "blossoming" career. this is, apparently, where the money you were seeking is. how you are helping people with health issues is not readily apparent from your posts, but we'll guess that you are doing good things for people.
further, you now feel the need to get in the larva-encrusted trench here on the coinboard to defend the powerless against the mighty wordslinging snake. those who perhaps wouldn't have been deemed worthy "clients" when you were practicing the noble version of the art of law (rather than the despicable "jury lotto" i believe you called it, form) are now important enough to defend. bravo.
i must hand it to you in your current choice of legal representation, as well, as you seem to have hired a law firm unscrupulous enough to charge their "clients" a day and a half at a time, and incompetent enough to let them know it.
worthy of a second bravo.
tis obviously a pity you left the profession.
peacockcoins
and it sets us apart from practitioners and consultants. Gregor
<< <i>I have never been sanctioned by any court anywhere for that offense. In fact, I have never been sanctioned by any court any where for anything. >>
Most drunk drivers have never received a DWI either.
Don and Zenny,
Your real beef should be with the individual who posted this thread in the US Coin forum - where it does not belong.
Russ, NCNE
hmmm, you've posted to this thread 4 times and i've posted to it twice.
hmmmm
edited to add:
don't you have a shill bidder you need to keep an eye on? the auction's ending in less than 198 hours, you know.
<< <i>hmmm, you've posted to this thread 4 times and i've posted to it twice. >>
And, that is relevant because?
I'm not the one attacking Doug for handing Anaconda what he has repeatedly earned, and clearly expects, by virtue of his calculated and deliberate actions at this forum.
Russ, NCNE
Tell me Russ, was there ANY legitimate purpose behind your post, other than to inflame? No answer required. Everyone on the Forum sees it for what it is.
Russ, NCNE
adrian
So, was there ANY legitimate purpose behind your posts, other than to inflame?
At least nobody has to ask what the purpose of your posts are. Everyone on the Forum sees it for what it is.
What I've been wondering is...
Is there ANY legitimate purpose for your existance?
Russ, NCNE
<< <i>So, was there ANY legitimate purpose behind your posts, other than to inflame? >>
With my apologies to "The Bard" - "Methinks he doth protest too much."
The mirror speaks many truths, all of them needing no words.
I for one, had great enthusiasm for coin collecting until recently. I think I'm getting over it.
Thanks a bunch for making this so pleasant a place to relax and enjoy a hobby.
Has it ever once entered that tiny little brain that there may well be a reason that people come at you the way they do? If you were even a fraction of the "man" you fancy yourself - you'd apologize for being such a Category I dickhead, and become a contributor.
As for me - I apologize to the board membership for allowing this pencil-dick to get under my skin enough to play along with his moronic little flame-games. I should have known better, and still fell into it. I suppose that will make the intellectual pygmy feel mighty, and important. What a character commentary.
There's a bunch of great folks here - but... It just "ain't worth it."
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