Are any of you regular submitters still submitting?

DHeath

I just got out my Ikes to add pictures to my Reg set (just a fun set), and compared some of the coins to some of my recent submissions. Several of my MS64s look better than some of the old holdered MS65s. I'm curious how many of you regular submitters are sending coins right now, and if the stricter grading bias is universal, or if it affects only moderns?

nwcs

Well, I ain't rich so I don't submit too much. I mostly submit for my own benefit and I'm only affected by my income restrictions and not by the tightness and looseness of PCGS grading. That said, I have two submissions out. One's on its way back, and the other is in-process.

Neil

TAP444

Word on the street is a lot of submitters are waiting to summit
or sending to ngc at the moment,waiting to see if PCGS
goes back to a reasonable grading standard.
Just the rumors I here,but I did get a 30d economy back in 15days
so volume must be down
Tim

gmarguli

The grading standard on Ikes have shifted. I used to get back a bunch of MS65s and scattered MS64s. My last few batches were MS64s with scattered MS63s. My grading standards haven't changed. That leaves only one option....

I've cut back on submissions a lot to PCGS. I just can't play the game anymore. It causes me too many headaches to deal with the crap. When PCGS can find one grading standard they like and they stick to it, then I'll pick up my submissions. However, given the arrogance exhibited by PCGS, I would say that they'll be out of business before that happens or at least on the same level at ANACS with NGC being in sole position of #1.

I honestly believe that PCGS has stopped grading modern proofs. They just assign a grade based on a split second of looking. They also seem scared to give a coin the "money grade" unless it is 150% there.

darktone

I have not used pcgs or anacs for a few months. I have been on a NGC kick lately and I have been really happy. mike

MadMarty

I sent in two orders a few weeks ago, going to see how it gos..

EVillageProwler

I have not submitted anything to PCGS in well over a year -- perhaps even going on two years. Perhaps some will say that this is because I am pro-NGC. I am not pro-NGC. I am simply anti-PCGS. Actually, I am simply anti-DHall. And, I submit to NGC because I think they are more to my liking at this point in time.

EVP

chiefbob

I've got two submissions out and one on the way.

The impression I get from a lot of you guys is that a PR69DCAM that looks like perfection will be graded by NGC as PR70 Ultra Cam? How does this affect marketability of NGC slabs compared to PCGS, if everyone (at least on these forums) knows there is comparability?

Bob

Bear

I stopped submitting coins to PCGS several months ago. I am just sitting on a bunch and

waiting for reason to return to grading.

FrattLaw

I too am waiting and also sending some coins over to NGC. My moderns will go to PCGS once it appears to have calmed down.

Michael

MW Fattorosi Collection

tjkillian

I am waiting as well. Too many MS coins coming back as AU-58s, including some crack out MS-63s. Also, too many body bags.

I hope they come to their senses soon.

Tom

merz2

DHeath
As I said on another post,I submitted some coins to PCGS at the Baltimore Coin Show.Some were same day service.One was a 1854 California fractional gold.Another was my (4) free submissions for renewing my collectors club membership.One was the quaterly free submission 1854 type 2 gold dollar.We'll have to see how they come out.I'll let you all know when I get the results.The (2) same day service were freebies due to my Registry Set(90 % complete).

coinbuf

Well I just got an email of the grades from my last submission and I can tell you that it will be my last submission to PCGS. Thay sent back a gem 65/66 1926D Lincoln as cleaned. I bought this coin from a known source who owned it for 3 yrs and I know it was not altered!!! Their loss is going to be NGC's gain.

Chris

Ronyahski

Wow, the responses so far are a resounding wake up call to PCGS, and I will just add to it. After not submitting for almost a year, I gave them a try a few weeks ago. Echo Gmarguli - somebody's grading standards have changed significantly, and it ain't mine!

I just p*ssed away hundreds$$$ in grading fees. No more submissions until PCGS gets its act together. PCGS may be the tougher grade to get, but consistency is infinitely more respected.

PCGS WAKE UP!!!

dorkkarl

probalby used anacs about 10 times in the past couple years, basically for authentication/attribution confirmation. never used ngc, used pcgs a couple of times about 9 years ago.

K S

Morganluver

I too have slowed my submissions to PCGS substantially, not necessarily because they have been extremely tough on the grades, but because they have been all over the board with their grading. You never know what to expect as inconsistancy is rampant. If they would be "CONSISTANT", at least you would have a basis by which you can evaluate your coins for submission. I don't particularly have an affinity for gambling, but I would have a much better chance in Vegas IMO. I just delivered some coins to NGC for the first time and am anxiously awaiting the results. If nothing else, I expect consistancy from them.

kieferscoins

Maybe I am different than everybody, but my submissions of type coins have increased in the last year. They are accurately graded and the turn around time is great! (14 days). I usually drop them off at Long Beach or Santa Clara shows.

Cameron Kiefer

CharlieB

I get pretty upset too when I get back intentionally undergraded
key coins from PCGS. Nevertheless, despite everybody's best
intentions on holding back submissions to them, you would never
know it from the Baltimore show. I waited for a seat at the PCGS
submission table. Their tables were busy all the time I was there,
with people in back of me waiting to take my seat. I just did
not see submissions slowing down at all there. So I gave it one last
try with them.

DCAMFranklin

Of course. But I'm not going to subject my best coins to this "grading standard".