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WAY TO GO PCGS!!!

wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 16,907 ✭✭✭✭✭
OK. We all can post all the bad stuff. So, it is only fair to post some "good stuff" as well -right?

One of our forum members sent me a 1965 Clad quarter the other day in a "pop top" PCGS-MS67 holder he bought at auction recently. I concluded the coin was SMS and not regular issue (after careful study I believe there is a pretty good way to tell, which I will discuss on the Registry Set board in a separate thread). The collector basically spent $600 for a $20 coin. I was over at PCGS today and I showed the coin to Rick Montgomery. It took no more than 2 minutes for Rick to tell me he agreed with me and to write the collector a check for $600 (which PCGS would reimburse to me). WAY TO GO PCGS!!

Then, on the Registry set board, a collector was raising the possibility that a coin he recently purchased might be overgraded. Without prompting, the following note just appeared on the thread:

"You can send the coin back under the Guarantee Review service. I we do feel the coin does not make the grade we will reimburse you for what you paid for the coin and the review fee.

Please call, e-mail or even PM me if you have any further questions.

Charlie
800-447-8848 ext 141
Charlie@collectors.com


-------------------------
Charlie Kahler

Director,
Customer Account Management

Collectors Universe"


WAY TO GO PCGS!! Your assistance in cleaning up the problem coins is greatly appreciated by all of us collectors and dealers alike!! image

Wondercoin
Please visit my website at www.wondercoins.com and my ebay auctions under my user name www.wondercoin.com.

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  • nwcsnwcs Posts: 13,386 ✭✭✭
    It's nice to hear the good as well as the bad. One good thing for me was that my modern service level submission took 9 days to process! It should be here tomorrow or Saturday! image Including my 1988p 5C MS66FS pop 14/0. image now I need to find me a MS67 example..
  • Now that`s service with a smile.image
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Yep, Charlie's a great guy who tries very hard. Too bad he has no real authority and is just the front man. Oh, and this:



    << <i>what you paid for the coin and the review fee. >>



    And, if they don't agree, a charge shows up on your credit card, without authorization or notification.

    Sorry, Wondercoin, but the service that you get does not reflect reality for us schmucks.

    Russ, NCNE


  • wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 16,907 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "Sorry, Wondercoin, but the service that you get does not reflect reality for us schmucks"

    Russ: First, stop calling yourself a "schmuck". Second, you know as well as I do that MANY forum members have a dealer contact that can help them with a PCGS submission/problem. If your dealer happens to be located in S. CA it can become even easier. Of course, if I had a problem with an NGC coin, I would need to mail a coin, but the Florida dealers could walk the coin right in there as well. Third, I know at any major show a collector can bring a coin to PCGS to review. Fourth, I was happy to assist the forum member, who I hope posts here as well. image Wondercoin.
    Please visit my website at www.wondercoins.com and my ebay auctions under my user name www.wondercoin.com.
  • dorkkarldorkkarl Posts: 12,691 ✭✭✭
    it's great to hear about positive customer-svc events ........ but i gotta ask. is it possible there is a "different" level offered for registry-set clients than for non-registry-set clients?

    K S
  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,162 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Now if PCGS will just step up and take care of the 1913-D Saint, it will be a Trifecta!!!! image
  • dbldie55dbldie55 Posts: 7,731 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I just keep remembering the Proof Liberty Nickel that Rick M. refused to take out of the PCGS Mint State Holder (and pay the difference in value). I have to go along with Russ on who gets the treatment.


    Collector and Researcher of Liberty Head Nickels. ANA LM-6053
  • wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 16,907 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Dbldie55: I can't comment on the coin as I have never seen and I never said PCGS was "perfect". They just did a good job this week and provided the protection an average collector hopes to get when stepping up for a PCGS slab. Wondercoin
    Please visit my website at www.wondercoins.com and my ebay auctions under my user name www.wondercoin.com.
  • dbldie55dbldie55 Posts: 7,731 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wondercoin,

    You don't need to see the coin. The top two grading services both called it a proof, but Rick Montgomery decided it was best left in a Mint State holder than to correct the mistake.

    You are always talking about very specific examples and tell the story as if it applies across the board. I was just pointing out an example of PCGS failing. It seems Legend has another example, but we are still waiting to see if PCGS is actually will to step to the plate. It seems once it is a public issue, they will "make it right". The only consistent example of PCGS making good that I have seen is with coins graded 70.
    Collector and Researcher of Liberty Head Nickels. ANA LM-6053
  • BladeBlade Posts: 1,744
    DD55,
    I think Mitch's note was very refreshing. I have only been a member for 6 months or so, but have seen 100's of threads (no kidding) bashing PCGS for one thing or another. Their Q&A Forum, while only covering 80% of the full story, sure went a long way in my mind to listening to our concerns and trying to address some of them. It's nice to see them step up and I thank Mitch for sharing these examples. Let's appreciate this one for what it is - a good example of customer service - and hope it continues.

    Tom

    NOTE: No trees were killed in the sending of this message. However, a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.

    Type collector since 1981
    Current focus 1855 date type set
  • wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 16,907 ✭✭✭✭✭
    With all due respect, if I can't see the coin, your comment is nothing more than hearsay on top of hearsay (since I assume you didn't own this coin but are simply carrying a tale from someone's elses situation). Then again, maybe Rick had a good reason to leave it in the MS holder. Maybe the owner of the coin was a notorious coin doctor that Rick refused to deal with anymore. Maybe the owner glued his slab together and Rick felt it was a tampered holder. Maybe a thousand different things.

    One thing for certain, your comments carry -0- weight with me (and other board members no doubt as well who may chose not to comment here) unless and until you set out the exact circumstances of the situation (scans would be nice as well), just like Laura did here the other day. Until then, it sounds like nothing more than "sour grapes". Wondercoin.
    Please visit my website at www.wondercoins.com and my ebay auctions under my user name www.wondercoin.com.
  • dbldie55dbldie55 Posts: 7,731 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I guess in the world where you are guilty until proven otherwise, I am a liar unless I can show otherwise. I cannot show you the coin as it was sold a few years ago, in the Mint State holder. You know the dealer who this happened to, and it was not hearsay, as I was working for him at the time. I was even there during the phone call to Rick. You can ask Dale the story when you see him this weekend in Baltimore.

    There is no "sour grapes" towards PCGS. I still use their service all the time. I just won't accept a coin sight unseen in their holder. (nobody should though)

    Collector and Researcher of Liberty Head Nickels. ANA LM-6053
  • pontiacinfpontiacinf Posts: 8,915 ✭✭
    I have a gold coin, no biggie but still important enough to me...looked nice in begining but is starting to turn a weird color in upper 3rd portion...I bought this coin from a board member and I know if this is a fake the boardmember who sold it didnt know. Anyhow long story short, mitch Id gladly send coin and a few bucks to you to have looked at and have you get it back to me. I am in no way an expert but the coin no longer looks right.
    image

    Go BIG or GO HOME. ©Bill
  • wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 16,907 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Bill: PM me the particulars concerning your coin (grade, type, cost, etc). I'll PM you back. Wondercoin
    Please visit my website at www.wondercoins.com and my ebay auctions under my user name www.wondercoin.com.

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