Trade with cyro big mistake........ Heres is what happened post what you think

UWashington

Hey this is what happened it was a trade for my vicne carter names of the game jersey and a baron davis 2 color warm up. He sent my a baron davis 2 color flight team jersey. It has 2 creases coming out ward from jersey. And anyone that knows stuff abotu cards knows that that only comes from the pack. I provided a scan below that CYRO scanned himself! lol. He didnt tell me that there was creases on it when we traded which is a NONO. And After i got his cards this is what he said "o0Slimo0: well i got ur pic..and there was only 1 when i sent" NO he damands i send the carter and the bdavis back with me only keeping the tmac (bv=what 15?) Can i get some FEEDBACK.

UWashington

Now hes saying hes filing mail fraud for making another crease. Well heres a link to his pic

http://groups.msn.com/collectorsfinest/cryostradelist.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=1

UWashington

o0Slimo0: ok..i get my davis back with more than 1 small crease..and im filing fraud against ur wigger ass

UWashington

Got anything to say? slimo?

rooks

He traded the baron davis w/ the creases for your carter right? If the davis had any creases and he didnt tell you then he is at fault.

Cryo

i showed him the scan before the trade happened and he agreed..and as u can see there's a microcopic crease to the top left hand corner of the swatch..he knew that before he accepted the trade..there was only 1..if there's 2 now..that's his doing, and he told Joe Benson that he knew he got the bad end of the deal..and now he's trying to back out..after i sent fast as sh*t..and now that makes me a bad trader cuz he dont wanna give up the carter after he accepted a trade??

and my name isnt Slimo

Cryo

there's one crease..and it was there showing in the scan when he accepted..and here was the full trade:

(me)Baron Davis flight patterns, and Tmac playmakers for (him)Vince names of the game and Baron Davis 2color warm up..now he dont wanna give away the carter so he makes these weak excuses..that he knew bout before the trade..WTF?

UWashington

SLIMO IS A LIER ITS HIS S/N and hoemro is his cousin s/n (joe benson) heres the entire chat

hey nice try SLIMO ask ur cousin JOE here is the aim chat homero is joe

You have just entered room "Chat 28358441821264389616."
o0homero0 has entered the room.
NBAexpectations: h/o
o0Slimo0 has entered the room.
NBAexpectations: 0: my first trade..i send fast as s**t..now u wanna turn the trade around..
o0Slimo0: yet again ur wrong..
NBAexpectations: he didnt tell me there was creasses
o0Slimo0: if u look at the scan u can see the crease..hmm
o0Slimo0: u didnt look well
o0Slimo0: not my problem
NBAexpectations: u cant see the creases
NBAexpectations: smart one
o0Slimo0: you can
o0Slimo0: look at the top left corner of the swatch
o0Slimo0: u see it
NBAexpectations: put a link to the scan
NBAexpectations: still u have to tell the person ur trading with there is creases.
NBAexpectations: thats a rule
o0Slimo0: http://groups.msn.com/collectorsfinest/cryostradelist.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=1
o0Slimo0: naw..u just dont wanna give me that vince
NBAexpectations: can u see the crease joe?
NBAexpectations: simo i have 40 refs
o0Slimo0: yes..look in the white to the left of the black..u see it!
NBAexpectations: all happy traders
NBAexpectations: u can only seee it if u knwo its there
o0Slimo0: lemme show u!
NBAexpectations: U CAN ONLY SEE IT IF U KNOW IT IS THERE
o0Slimo0: lemme upload this pic
o0homero0: u all gotta be able to come to some sort of conclusion, maybe slim can like on u all's next trade give u 5 bv in your favor or somethin
NBAexpectations: HE** NO
NBAexpectations: UR JUST SAYIN THAT BECAUSE HES UR CUZ
o0homero0: well hwo bads the crease first?
o0homero0: how**
o0Slimo0: see..no, u thought he'd favor u..cuz u invited him not me..mr genius
NBAexpectations: 1/3 INCH
NBAexpectations: i invited both smart one
o0homero0: im thinkin 5-10 bv
o0homero0: extra on next trade
NBAexpectations: homero THINK card with 2 creases!book value is half
NBAexpectations: what do u think the low callum is for>
o0Slimo0: they are from the f**k*ng swatch..and there's only 1
o0Slimo0: not 2..
NBAexpectations: theres 2!
o0Slimo0: 1
NBAexpectations: i scan it again FO YA
NBAexpectations: and get a little closer!
o0Slimo0: i knew u'd pull something like this anyway..cuz u done told Joe that u know u got the bad end of the deal..
o0Slimo0: im not dumb
NBAexpectations: ya i did!
NBAexpectations: what am i pulling
NBAexpectations: make a post in cu
o0Slimo0: see..now u need an excuse
NBAexpectations: u didnt tell me the card was badly damaged
o0Slimo0: it's not
o0Slimo0: wtf?
NBAexpectations: yes it is 2 creases is badly damaged
o0Slimo0: did u sit there and play with it all day?
NBAexpectations: nope both creases are from the jersey out
o0Slimo0: there was 1 when i sent..and it wasnt big..so anything else is ur doing
NBAexpectations: that means it came fro mthe packaging
NBAexpectations: nice try buddy
NBAexpectations: ill take ur pic
NBAexpectations: and make a close up
o0Slimo0: well i got ur pic..and there was only 1 when i sent
o0Slimo0: send my davis back..and the carter..fine
NBAexpectations: u want me to send u the carter?
o0Slimo0: that was the deal!
NBAexpectations: hell no
NBAexpectations: im not sending the tmac and the carter
NBAexpectations: u f***in crazy
o0Slimo0: homer did i say he'd make an excuse to keep that carter?
NBAexpectations: the tmac booked 20
NBAexpectations: slimo im making a post in collectors edge
o0Slimo0: wtf is collectors edge?
NBAexpectations: i mean cu
NBAexpectations: well see buddy
o0Slimo0: ok..we'll see how many of ur net buddies defend u
o0homero0: lol
NBAexpectations: what what? speachless?
o0Slimo0: huh?
o0Slimo0: just hold up ur end of the deal
NBAexpectations: what else WAS i sending ur a$$?
o0Slimo0: davis and carter
o0Slimo0: what are u sending..cuz u dont hold up ur end..and u'll be in trouble
NBAexpectations: ill send everything u sent me back
NBAexpectations: and ull make a place on my bad traders list
o0Slimo0: i sent the davis with 1 lil crease by the swatch, if it has more..i'm filing mail fraud
o0Slimo0: hope u like it buddy
NBAexpectations: lol u know whwat
NBAexpectations: u can focus in on ur picture
NBAexpectations: and see 2 creases lol
NBAexpectations: and im putting all of it on cu
o0Slimo0: no u cant..cuz there's 1
o0Slimo0: ok..i get my davis back with more than 1 small crease..and im filing fraud against ur wigger a$$
NBAexpectations: lol focus in with a picture
NBAexpectations: and also with saying that u can get booted from cu
NBAexpectations: if it is a false accusation
o0Slimo0: nope it's n ot
NBAexpectations: cyro is ur name on there right?
o0Slimo0: i got my pic with 1 crease
o0Slimo0: buddy
o0Slimo0: no
NBAexpectations: lol
o0Slimo0: haha
NBAexpectations: check the pic out urself12
NBAexpectations: !
o0Slimo0: u turned in some innocent kid
o0Slimo0: haha
NBAexpectations: bwahahahahha
NBAexpectations: well see!
NBAexpectations: And another thing. You cant charge something i didnt do and even if i did, which i didnt u didnt send insured
NBAexpectations: bwahahahahhaha dumbass
o0Slimo0: haha...that's funny..u said tmac bv's at 20 in this convo..then 15 on CU
o0Slimo0: what a f@g
o0Slimo0: your a wigger
o0Slimo0: the scan shows 1 crease
o0Slimo0: ur wrong again
NBAexpectations: lol
NBAexpectations: bwahahahhaha
NBAexpectations: back up ur self smart one
o0homero0: "NBAexpectations: bwahahahhaha"
o0homero0: lmao
o0homero0: nikobe?
o0Slimo0: lmao!
o0Slimo0: he is!
o0Slimo0: u idolize nikobe dont u?
o0Slimo0: wigger
NBAexpectations: i bet sooo not dumba$$
o0Slimo0: he stopped talking..kid knows he's wrong
NBAexpectations: what?
NBAexpectations: smart one lol
o0Slimo0: and i'm a bad trader cuz i send fast as s***..and he dont pay attention to my scan
o0Slimo0: wtf?
NBAexpectations: hey if you think that post it on cu and we'll see what others think
NBAexpectations: He traded the baron davis w/ the creases for your carter right? If the davis had any creases and he didnt tell you then he is at fault.

JoeBenson

everybody, what should these two do to settle there dispute?

Cryo

NBAexpectations: He traded the baron davis w/ the creases for your carter right? If the davis had any creases and he didnt tell you then he is at fault.
o0Slimo0: no see
o0Slimo0: he didnt know the full trade
o0Slimo0: he thought it was the Davis str8 up for Carter
o0Slimo0: haha u moron
o0Slimo0: read it again


hmm..he cut off at this point..cuz i proved him wrong again..rooks thought it was Baron Davis str8 up for the Carter..hmm..see..you're pulling some sh*t that you arnt smart enough to pull

Cryo

<< <i>everybody, what should these two do to settle there dispute? >>



yup..what should we do?

Metros69

fight? How close you guys live to each other j/k

JoeBenson

2,000 miles lol

Cryo

<< <i>fight? How close you guys live to each other j/k >>




far..i'm from east coast, he's from west coast

Cryo

now i'm trying to solve this and figure out what we are gonna do, and he wont reply to my pms on aim..cuz he knows i'm right

BigShane

Send back the Baron, easy enough.

TEDCOLLECTSSHAQ

The increased number of traders that are sending and NOT taking responsibility for their part of the trade is really sad, the cards are the senders responsibility until the other trader receives them and accepts them as your part of the trade. There are many very young kids on this site that trade responsible and take responsibility for their trades. Those of you that are being irresponsible in trading on this board are making it difficult for others.

I am currently posting about another irresponsible trader.....

.....you might read the definition of what mail fraud is.....but here is another fraud definition:

Fraud by deceit; hiding the truth to gain advantage......


enjoy.....

Metros69

how bout you guys forget about it, and get on with it? It's one card I understand I would be pissed but to me condition isn't the least of my concern, you mad because there is a little crease where the jersey is? Just pretend like you have a super rare card that has the crease?

UWashington

cyro- ur a moron, i was eating dinner yes thats right i was AWAY fro mmy computer for 10 minutes. I offered to send his stuff back and he said he was filing mail fruad

UWashington

He was goin crazy as a mofo tellin me he was filing mai lfraud lol it was the dumbest thing ever and no hes saying i was being disrespectful look at this lol

see i would be reasonable..and let u send my s**t back..but u gotta be disrespectful and say i'm a bad trader..which is wrong..and u would be my only reference and u'd be a dick and say i'm a bad trader..which is wrong

i was just telling him that iwas gonna send his stuff back and he was AHHHHHHh MAIL FRAUUUDDD lol

BigShane

He can't file Mail Fraud. Nothing was stolen in the process. Chances are he's like 13 years old. Just trying to "scare" you into sending him the VC.

Cryo

<< <i>cyro- ur a moron, i was eating dinner yes thats right i was AWAY fro mmy computer for 10 minutes. I offered to send his stuff back and he said he was filing mail fruad >>



cuz when i sent there was one very tiny crease..now u say there's 2 big ones? i can prove one..look at my scan..and u wanna send a card back in worse condition than i sent..in thin sleeve hard case and bubble envelope?

UWashington

lol bigshane heres soem more funny stuff check this out he tryes act like he didnt trade with me and then he goes back into cyro lol its hilarious who ripped him off? lol funny how his cuz isnt even talking to him lol

o0Slimo0: Bad Traders on CU: CYRO ..haha..who's Cyro?
o0Slimo0: and trevor..if u want..i got 2 kareem rushes..i could send them to make up..or whatever..just solve this s*** and talk!
o0Slimo0: so homer..will this be the last of me being ripped of just the beginning?
o0homero0: he is away from the comp
o0homero0: hit him up when he gets back on
o0Slimo0: he is back
o0Slimo0 has left the room.

TRADING ISNT FOR YOU SON

Acutaually anyone here with a image editer can close up on the card and see 2 creases. They are the excact same size as on the big i never said big they dont have to be big little kid

Cryo

<< <i>He can't file Mail Fraud. Nothing was stolen in the process. Chances are he's like 13 years old. Just trying to "scare" you into sending him the VC. >>




and you're the one that thought u can't be a ripoff on ebay? haha..point proven..hush kid

UWashington

Dude dont being calling adults kids dig urslef a hole and if u wanna talk some kiddie S*** or r u affraid. People dont liek kids like you

Cryo

<< <i>Dude dont being calling adults kids dig urslef a hole and if u wanna talk some kiddie S*** or r u affraid. People dont liek kids like you >>



is that why everyone made fun of you and called u a wigger and sh*t? the whole site clowned u..and u ride nikobe's jock..lmao!

JoeBenson

Actually whether this means anything or not Cryo is older than both Big Shane and U Washington by a fe years..

UWashington

Hey just cuz nikobe can stick up for one guy and not go liken whoever is hot lol grow up kid and if u wanna talk s*** im it to me no one likes you on here and dont post again

UWashington

joe dotn be dumb man ur better than that. Just cuz he wants you to back him up thats sad. You know who went wrong. U been trading for a while.

JoeBenson

yeah he is 17, im just saying. cuz the one dude made a post about being 13....But I mean He isnt a ripoff or anything man, just send the cards back and yall cross out the experience....

Remster

A trade isn't complete until both parties are satisfied.If someone has a problem then you each return any cards involved in the trade
and no bit*hing about how you don't want to give a card back because you like/want it
Play nice and return the cards

Now isn't that easy!!!

JoeBenson

exactly remster, just send back cards, and write off the experience

UWashington

UH the second thing i said to him is that i was sending the cards back lol he didnt want me 2 not my fualt

UWashington

THE PROBLEM WAS FIXED. HE JSUT DIDNT KNOW THAT HE HAD TO SAY IT HAD A CREASE.

Remster

well Cyro...the dude is willng to return the cards...looks like you should be willing to do the same

Cryo

sorry U..problem solved