question on Peace Dollar toning

sinin1

What is your opinion on the toning of this dollar? Does it make it look better or worse? Also with all of the threads on artificial toning, do you think this is actual or artificial?

Teletrade auction 1922-s ICG MS65
http://www.teletrade.com/coins/lot.asp?auction=1645&lot=1766

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FrattLaw

Seems real enough to me, but I would have to question the 65 from IGC first, before I even considered the toning question. There's a huge price drop off between 65 and 64. I really can't tell from the scan what the grade is. The toning isn't that attractive in the scan but it maybe much nicer in person.

From Russ's posts, I take it that Teletrade does allow returns though.

My opinion, I'd pass and I'm putting together a toned only Peace registry set.

Michael

MW Fattorosi Collection

Peaceman

ICK! My OPINION is that it's worth about $30 in the holder it's graded in. I'm just NOT a fan of toned coins..... I'll say it again.... kind of buying a rusty car......

MikeSettles

I think the toning is unattrative. It does look natural though.

oldcameoproofsguy

IMO the toning on this coin does not enhance eye appeal. In fact, I feel that the toning on this piece actually detracts from eye appeal. I would probably pass on the coin.

gemtone65

I find the toning on this piece to be very unattractive. In such cases, the coin will sell in the marketplace for a significant discount from its pure white counterpart. Moreover, whether the toning is natural or not will have little effect on the value of this coin -- I don't know anyone who collects ugly (by market standards as well as my own ) but naturally toned piece dollars.

Rather, the significance of the source of the toning relates to how easy it will be to remove. If the toning is natural, then perhaps it can be dipped out, although if the color is as black as the scan, you may have surface problems. If the toning is artificial, then, well, I'm not sure what you can expect. In either case, I must say I think this is not a good target for acquisition, even at 20% of the MS65 price.

Finally, I would question whether the toning was applied to hide some defect that otherwise might have downgraded the coin. The fact that the piece is in an ICG holder nad looks like this suggests that PCGS/NGC certainly would not have graded it above MS64, and perhps, can we say body bag?

FrattLaw

I'll be happy to take in unwanted, ugly toned peace dollars. Send all your toned but ugly Peace dollars to the Fugly Liberty Home, Porter Ranch California, I'll give them a good home and you can have a tax write-off as well.

Michael

MW Fattorosi Collection

Dog97

Nasty. The tone is dark ugly & all scratched up and it has a few big hits for a 65. And all that gemtone65 said too.
If the buyer wins it at the price it is now ($950) and doesn't like it and returns it he will be out $100 buyers fee + $40 return fee + $20 postage both ways so the return policy means nothing to me.

nwcs

Not the greatest pic for the toning. Need a larger pic to really authenticate the toning, but it appears OK.

crispy

Attractive toning on Peace dollars is very difficult to find. The problem has to do with the acid washing of the planchets or the subsequent failure to remove the acid afterwards.

This is not attractive toning, it approaches tarnished. Some, however, may find it desirable. Just imagine what this toning is hiding underneath.

Loki

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paigowjohnny

I think it's real, but definitely not very appealing....