Thanks for all the help researching the rarity of the 1982D 50c Washington commems in high grade. S

wingedliberty

Thanks to all for helping me research the rarity of the 1982D 50C Washington Commem in high grade.
I doubted the scarcity of these in high grade but now have done my own research and combined it
with the previous thread , thanks all for your help.

Please see Ebay: 1394673343. I think this was a great price, considering the PCGS daily price guide
is $175., In 68+, these are tough. I think they were heavily abused despite the high mintage.

Any thoughts on what I paid and any comments as to price/scarcity?


Best regards,
Brian.

flaminio

NGC 68s, when started at $1/NR, tend to end up at around $20 or so. $30 is not a bad price for the coin, but if you wanted to be really patient, you could have waited until a NR one was listed and possibly gotten it cheaper.

IMHO, NGC is much looser on 1982-D Washingtons than the other three main grading services. There're NGC 69s on eBay weekly, while I've never seen a PCGS or ANACS 69, and only once seen an ICG 69 (about a year and a half ago). NGC 68s are also much more common than 68s from the other services, but the NGC name carries some cachet, and so they tend to go for a little more money than an ICG (but not always).

wayneherndon

Brian,

I'm not as familiar with the NGC versions. I generally just watch the PCGS side of the modern commem house. However, if it is really is a 68 (by PCGS's standards) (the seller doesn't provide a picture), it is a good deal. I've spent more than $30 worth of my time looking.

WH

wingedliberty

Is it true that ANACS is really the toughest on these?
It seems plausible, since they are brutal on modern commems. I have a Botanical Garden commem
thats in an ANACS 68 holder, I literally cannot find a blemmish on the coin?


Brian.

wayneherndon

Brian,

I don't know the answer to that one. I've never seen a modern commem in an ANACS holder, although I'm sure they're out there. PCGS basically owns this market.

WH

keets

hello brian

i'm holding an NGC MS68 Washington i believe i purchased from the same seller about 2 months ago for the same price by using the BIN. i guess in the technical sense of the grade the coin is a 68, however it has plenty of die polish in the fields both obverse and reverse. still a nice coin and i think worth the $30 price tag. i doubt that PCGS would assign a grade of MS68 to this coin or to many of the others that have that NGC grade.

what i try to remember about the washington's is that it was the start of the modern commemerative program and the packaging of the mint state coins left much to be desired. with little protecting them from contact and all the rub from the cello packaging, added in with the fact that the coins had to languish until at least 1989 when PCGS took off, it's easy to see why most are held back at 66-67. i've looked at many, many raw washingtons. even the mark free ones and the die polish-free early strikes are hard to come by with no rub. but i really like the design and i enjoy the hunt. i search eBay regularly and it's worth the $4-$7 price when i see a coin to chance buying.

i'm trying to get a good deal hooked up with a dealer about 50 miles away that the local guy does a lot of trading with. he's big in modern commems and i'm gonna hit him for 10-20 at a crack and see if i can get lucky. what the heck, it takes the edge off!!!! my only problem will be how to get rid of all the extras i end up with!!

al h.

supercoin

I really don't think it's the packaging that's the problem on these coins -- the plastic is relatively stiff and they were individually packaged. I think they went into the plastic already screwed up.

Similar phenomenon can be seen on the "blue pack" uncirculated Ike dollars. The 71-S are terrible, while the 72-S are great. Same packaging used for both dates.

keets

hey supe

that's a good point and one i hadn't really thought much about. in the same line of thinking, though, the 1971's were the first year for the ike's and it would appear that they solved the problems you spoke of. don't you think the mint would have done the same thing when they started up with the washington's or am i giving them too much credit??

with the ike's the coin is looser in the packaging and probably slides on the rims more than the actual design of the coin. the washington's seem to be sealed tighter and so the cello would rub on the design more as the whole thing moves instead of just the coin on the rims. maybe just scatterbrained thinking but the way i see it happening. most of the rub i see on washingtons is in the same place, on his right arm, his head and on the center of the horses head.

al h.

supercoin

Hmm... I dunno, I think that tighter would be better. And coins are a little tougher than we sometimes give them credit for.

But I haven't looked at any in a while nor do I have any in front of me to look at the rub you're talking about. I guess I never noticed it after cringing at all the usual scuffs and marks.

relayer

Those are tough given the size of the mintage (which may have lead to the quality problem and along with the packing makes them so scarce).

If you can get it to cross over, you can probably sell it near the price guide price to anybody below #9 on the list below (except me - I'm tied at #12 with a 67, but I'm selling the set).

Modern Commemoratives Unc Half Dollars