Does this look full band?

Placid

I have had it for 10+ years and it's currently in a ngc 67 no full band holder.
I looked with a loop and the center band is not "split" but the top and bottom are.
Thanks for the help all

KlectorKid

i dont think it is quite FB but i nice coin none the less

Placid

Drats!

KlectorKid

Take more than just my opinion

LucyBop

There does not seem to be a clear seperation of the center bands which is required for the split full band desgination. But as always, its hard to tell from a scan or pic. check for a clear seperation of the center band which results in 2 bands stacked on each other, then check for the same on the upper and lower...

robertpr

Just what is supposed to be pictured on this coin anyway? I never could figure it out

Placid

Thanks Lucy.

ursabear

Placid,

Just went through this... If it is PCGS, I don't think they'll mark it as FB. It is a gorgeous reverse and speaks for itself (with or without FB). I am not the expert some of the guys and gals that frequent the board, so please take my thoughts with a small grain of salt.

TAP444

Hard to tell from the scan due to reflection
but does not appear to be fb,look down on the bands
with a 10x loupe and see if the are separated the entire length
Tim

Fairlaneman

Placid:

Look right straight down on the bands and if they are split all of the way across it is a split band coin. Looking at a angle like your picture is makes it impossible to give you a decent answer. Just for reference NGC graded my 25S as a NB dime. Knowing that the coin was split band I sent it too PCGS and it got the designation. Both Grading Services blow it on the SB designation at times.

Nice Dime whether it is SB or not.

Ken

PS: Hey is this Merc night on the Coin Forumn.

kingmatt

I really like the Mercury series. This is a rally nice strike, however...it does not appear to be FSB.

Fairlaneman

Lucy:

Just for reference. A split band Merc Does Not have too have the Bands Split on the Top or Bottom Set. Dumb as Hell but thats the Truth.

Ken

LucyBop

<< <i>Just what is supposed to be pictured on this coin anyway? I never could figure it out >>



Here is some info Lucy found about the reverse of the dime: The reverse of the coin depicts the fasces, an ancient symbol of authority, with a battle-ax atop it to represent preparedness and an olive branch beside it to signify the desire for peace. With World War I raging in Europe, these were emotional themes in 1916.

The Winged Liberty dime in my opinion is one of the most beautiful coins ever made. And yes, Lucy has a decent set of them that need to be certified....

KlectorKid

? I'm confused could u explain more in depth. do u mean u only need the top or the bottom to be split to have a FSB

LucyBop

<< <i>Just for reference. A split band Merc Does Not have too have the Bands Split on the Top or Bottom Set. Dumb as Hell but thats the Truth >>



True, not for PCGs desgination, however the diehard Winged Liberty collector seeks these fully struck gems in this manner, atleast Lucy does, when I finish my Franklin MS & Pr sets, I may focus here as well as the Roosies....

Fairlaneman

Reverse Here.



This One is not Really, Really Bold but was good enough for a 67FB PCGS Slab.

Ken

robertpr

Cool thanks Lucy!

Incidentally, with your new snowman icon, I thought I'd mention that it's snowing here in Connecticut!

LucyBop

Beautiful example Ken, that one makes Lucy's knee's buckle......
Here is a link to some great info provided by Pinnacle on these gems: Mercury Dimes

Fairlaneman

Its Hard to Believe you Favor the Bald Guy over Adolph's Beautiful Little Ladies. Big,Big

Just Kidding I hope you know.

Hmmm.....Am I a Serious Merc Collector.......Hmmm.

Ken

KlectorKid

i dont undestand what u guys are talking about when u say "A split band Merc Does Not have too have the Bands Split on the Top or Bottom Set."

LucyBop

I know you are 'serious' Ken.... Lucy will join the Registry soon........ And whats wrong with bald guys?

Lucy with a famous musician named 'Harry' in Vegas..

Fairlaneman

Live Ones are Probably Cool but Dead ones, Aww come on now.

We will Welcome You with open Arms in the Registry. Heck everyone knows we Love to have New Participants. So far only Beth (Labmom) has been the only Woman to join us.

Ken

Shucks Not Really Serious about Mercs in the way that word is taken. I just Plain Like Them.

KlectorKid

LucyBop

<< <i>Live Ones are Probably Cool but Dead ones, Aww come on now >>



Wait till the Ike guys get involved!

KlectorKid

I dont undestand what u guys are talking about when u say "A split band Merc Does Not have too have the Bands Split on the Top or Bottom Set."

ursabear

KlectorKid,

PCGS designates (on their web site) Full Bands Mercs as those that have a clear, unbroken line in the middle banded joint of the fasces. The top "bands" and bottom "bands" do not appear in the PCGS pages as important to the designation.

I think the unusualness of the middle band is because it tends t be the first to get hit, scratched, or worn away (much like the steps on the reverse of a Jefferson, or the bell lines on a Franklin.)

I hope this helps

LucyBop

When you look at the reverse of the dime you will see three rows of bands, one at the top, one at the center, one at the bottom. PCGs requires only the middle band to have a full seperation without any breaks or major distractions to gain the fb desgination... I like to find them with all 3 split... Not easy to do...

Android

Klectorkid,

A FB designation refers to only the center band of the fasces. The bands at the top and at the bottom are irrelevent in a FB designation.

Andy

KlectorKid

thx that helps alot, guys... and gal

Android

I've also found that NGC is much tougher than PCGS on full bands, much like the controversy of full steps (5 or 6) in the Jefferson nickel series.

Andy

remumc

To be called full bands, only the center bands need be fully struck. As a rule, these dimes are weak in the center of the reverse. It is possible to have a full band dime(strong center bands) where the top and bottom bands are weak and/or not split at all(weak around the perifery). I would not buy such a dime, as in my mind, for my set, ALL bands need to be fully rounded and split!

Regards,

Wayne