This PCGS Buffalo nickel looks suspiciously AT

sadysta1

If this coin is not AT I'm ready to apologize to anyone. Simply put I don't think nickels tone like that and the toning doean't look right IMHO.

AT nickel???

gmarguli

That coin is stunning. Not a bad price considering it's not even 7X dogsheet..er..bluesheet bid.

The seller is a well regarded forum member. Maybe he'll chime in with a little insight into this coin.

Russ

<< <i>Maybe he'll chime in with a little insight into this coin. >>



He chimed in in the other thread about this coin.

Russ, NCNE

GaCoinGuy

HOOOOOOWEEEEEEEEEE..................AT or not, I like that Buff.........Any opinions on what would cause such dramatic colors on nickel........?

kryptonitecomics

It doesn't look AT to me, but I have seen a lot of Rainbow Buff's, and I am never surprised by the variety of colors!!!

robertpr

It's not unusual to see blues, sometimes reds, and occasionally greens on a nickel, but in that combination and that intense is rare. I'd agree that the image was heavily computer manipulated regardless of what the seller has to say - one needs only to look at everything BUT the coin in the picture to ascertain that! However, people DO manipulate images for accuracy purposes just as they do to deceive, and for what purpose this image was toyed with will only be known by looking at the coin in person.

CONCLUSION: To spend this kind of money on a coin on eBay is rediculous, unless you've had a positive history with the seller and there's a strong return policy. This is really a coin that has to be seen in person.

agentjim007

Forget AT or not. Do an ebay search for thunder1972 and include completed items. Now tell me what you think. Every N/R auction thunder1972 and pumps up the bid. Can you say SHILL.

gemtone65

There are some photographing techniques that seem to use extremely bright light to illuminate the coin. This results an image in which the colors appear much more vibrant than they are in practice.
This seems to be the case with every one of the 100 or so scans that I've seen of Coingame2000. This is not to say that the coin isn't very nice or that the colors shown are not real. It's just that they cannot be as vibrant to the naked eye as shown in the scans.

A similar situation occurs with scans from another prominent dealer well known to the board members and who specializes in toned material. (I'm not referring to the Bondman, who blatantly distorts the colors. Nor am I talking about Anaconda, whose scans I can attest are accurate.) In both instances, I have never seen a single coin in 30 years with as much pizzaz as these dealers' scans would imply exists for virtually every color coin in their inventories. How could these 2 dealers wind up with the only exceptionally toned dollars seen on E-bay or elsewhere? And, if such coins really existed, why sell them on E-bay?

Again, I'm not saying their coins aren't beautiful gems. But, don't tell me they look exactly like the scans, regardless of whether they or a relative did the scanning.

CLASSICS

it has to be the light he is using...never mine the coin...just look at the slab.....when did pcgs start using blue slabs?

Petescorner

it has to be the light he is using...never mine the coin...just look at the slab.....when did pcgs start using blue slabs?

Next thing you know, someone will say that PCGS doesn't use a neon purple ring in the large circle surrounding the coin!

dorkkarl

rumor has it that the pcgs pr-68 buffalo nickel on page C-21 ( the 1 w/ the stunning toning) of their "coin grading & counterfeit detection" book was "created" by one of the premier coin-doctors.

K S

BigD5

I read the other two threads concerning this coin, and although the seller claims to not have manipulated the images, I can't help but think not. I recently offered a 1927 pcgs ms/65, with very similar toning, but mine wasn't as "neonish" as the subject coin here. I just have a hard time picturing "glowing" toning like that.
Same goes for Morgans that show toning like that. The stuff has to be manipulated in the pic. I mean, how come you can't find coins with that "glowing" tone at shows?
With that said, I don't think the coin is AT. I just think the pic. has been messed with. I won't change my mind on that point.