Revenge is sweet!

Tonelover

A few years ago an ultra mean ebay seller left me my only true neutral feedback just because I ASKED him if I could return a coin he had sold me. I couldn't believe it at the time, all I did was cordially ask and he slammed me! Unfortunately he was one of those types who believes that all certified coin sales should be final because after all, they are certified.

Today I checked my current auctions, lo and behold guess who placed a bid on one of my items! Gleefully I canceled his bid and added him to my blocked bidders list. Based on my past dealings with him I am expecting a really nasty message.

OK, so he didn't even meet my reserve, and it's surely a small triumph in the big scheme of things, but it still feels darn good!

Whitewashqtr

It wasnt Fred, was it?

braddick

Ah, coins come and go but our memories last forever.
I love it.

Russ

<< <i>Based on my past dealings with him I am expecting a really nasty message. >>



When it comes in, please share.

Russ, NCNE

Whitewashqtr

Does anyone know Fred and is he still around? He is my one and only neg!!

Tonelover

If you're talking about Fred Sarafino, no it wasn't him. I never would have bid on one of his auctions to begin with. It's just some mean old crotchety jerk that could use some lessons in fine tuning his people skills.

Russ

I noticed that your nemesis has 17 negatives. Looks like you're not the only one he trifled with.

Russ, NCNE

Tonelover

Yeah, and to get a better feeling for what kind of guy he is, look at some of the responses he left to those negs. Still waiting for that message........

Complaint : WARNING!!!VERY unprofessional. Uses profanity and insults. STAY AWAY!!!
Response by cobra76 - Poor little Melinda. Her feelings are hurt. Same auction, double neg. Loser!

Complaint : tried 2 work out prob wit this guy, he leaves me neg f/b, email me 4 more info
Response by cobra76 - E-mail 4 what info? That u were 2 cheap 2 pay shipping? You're a newbie joke.

Complaint : BROKEN STEP ON TENDER NEVER MENTIONED,WONT ANSWER QUESTION AFTER SALE
Response by cobra76 - Got e-mail 2 days b4 neg feed. No broken step mentioned. Newbie jerk.

Neutral : Very poor follow up!! He's got my $$ and I STILL don't have my card!!
Response by cobra76 - Retalitory, just like a sissy I knew he was. Bad for Ebay. Watch out for BIG BRI

Complaint : after being high bidder did not reply to numerous emails
Response by cobra76 - Got 1 mail, I got busy, he got impatient. Newbies R beautiful. Time 4 Ebay break

Complaint : Never received payment for the item sold. I sent (2) emails with no response.
Response by cobra76 - I never even bought from this moron. This jerk should learn how to use Ebay.
(I remember this one at the time. Looked at the auction and he had indeed bid.)

Complaint : Coin description exaggerated, NOT PQ, NOT GORGEOUS.Ugly Coin Counter MARKS.
Follow-up by seektru - I DIDN'T SAY GRADE DUMBO. YOU LIED IN DESCRIPTION, "PQ,GORGEOUS", NO WAY
Response by cobra76 - Just another anal idiot that doesn't know how to grade coins. This coin was slab

tonelover(500) Mar-03-99 17:35:52 PST 61671996
Neutral : Reluctant to accept returns. Left me feedback for simply asking! Caution!
Response by cobra76 - Childish repsonse to neutral comment. Should have been negative. Grow up

Heck of a guy for sure.

MrLee

How sweet it is.

Oh........ya.......Payback is a B*tch.

Seems some people use FB for all the wrong reasons.

stman

So you only asked to return a coin. Some sellers like the ones that don't leave feedback and hold it hostage until you leave it for them first. I have one like that now I pay immediate and he's waiting to see what I do first. But I learned my lesson and he'll be waiting a long time.

Now Tonelover, although revenge can be sweet, maybe the guy has been in prison and got reborn and wanted to make amends with you by bidding on your auction? If thats the case how would you sleep at night.

DHeath

Tonelover,

I tend not to forget bad dealings, and your response confirms the point I was trying to make in the "Cancelling no reserve auctions" thread. Relationships are important. Odds are, we'll all be doing this for a very long time. I think the permanent community is smaller than some people imagine.

Bikingnut

Who is Fred? I once was the high bidder on an auction that had extremely complicated shippinig charges. I think my winning bid was in the neighborhood of 5 to 6 dollars for a Washington quarter. I waited two or three days for a message from the seller. When I didn't get it, I used the very complicated shipping instructions listed in the auctiona and sent what I thought was the right amount via Pay Pal, which he prefered according to the auction. I was off by 10 cents in my favor, and he refunded the money along with a really nasty email that stated he didn't have time or patience to use his valuable time making a trip to the the post office for bidders like me who try and save a a nickel or dime on his auctions by not paying the full amount. I put him on my don't bid list.

ARCO

I am jealous...that is what revenge dreams are made of!! the only better scenario would to have lost money to a dead beat seller, to then have him/her bid and win a coin that you are selling at triple what you lost and stick it right back at them!

Tyler

cacheman

<< <i> maybe the guy has been in prison and got reborn >>



Then he probably wouldn't mind my size thirteen boot up his arse!!!

Tonelover

Tyler, I think I actually got to stick him twice and I thank him for the opportunity to lay vengeance upon his worthless soul once again. Just now, a brand new to ebay bidder showed up, bid on a number of Large Cents including mine in a clever attempt to cover his tracks. I ain't buying it. Can you say cancelorama?!

Auction

ANACONDA

The Anaconda just blocked the cobra.

adrian

Tonelover

<< <i>The Anaconda just blocked the cobra. >>



Thanks, I never knew a cobra could be so mean. I figured that after he saw my email address at the time I'd receive a little more comraderie. I though we were like brothers!

ursabear

Hmmm, good way to put it, Anaconda! I wonder if Bears block Cobras?

Anyway, Tonelover, I just bid on that nice large cent. It is probably too much for my budget though. Wasn't trying to insult the coin, I don't know their value.

Great Cent, though! Very nice!

Bear

Ursabear - We bears are always polite, nice, kind, understanding, sensetive, generous,

likable, forthright, humerous, gentle and you better@%$##*&^$%%# not forget it either.

Bear

ursabear

<< <i>Ursabear - We bears are always polite, nice, kind, understanding, sensetive, generous,

likable, forthright, humerous, gentle and you better@%$##*&^$%%# not forget it either.

Bear >>



Bear, I most certainly could not have said it better myself!

Tonelover

Ursabear, thanks for placing a bid I don't have to cancel.

I'll state publicly that I use ebay to sell coins that we're not comfortable offering to our regular clients. While decent, they're not exactly high end. Our wholesale material if you will. I'm honest and upfront about mentioning problems and offer a no problem return, but in general I'd recommend against bidding on my auctions. If people are interested in owning nice coins, they're better off watching our retail inventory than our auctions.

Hope this doesn't open up a big can of worms, but I speak the truth. Funny thing is, bidders leave glowing feedback all the time and they're quite happy with this type of material, but I offer them a truly nice coin at retail and they run away as fast as they can.

DesertLizard

Obviously, some people are in the wrong business! That guy with all the negatives has some serious problems, doesn't he realize that will hurt business?

Why on earth are so many dealers / collectors so damn sensitive and "crotchety'? This is worse than my bickering grandkids!

stman

Tonelover, I buy very little from ebay. You have mentioned the fact about your auctions are not your high end material to me before.

And I commend you for stating it on this forum. True honesty is hard to find.

Loki

Tonelover,
Where can I check out your retail inventory?

cacheman

Loki, Here you go...Rare Coins of New Hampshire And if you're REAL nice to Jon he might even send you the most recent eCopy of the "Updated inventory from Rare Coins of New Hampshire" that he sends out each month. This is a nice little service where you can view whats new by hitting links embedded in the email that is sent to you. Trust me, RCNH will take care of you and integrity is the highest. Good luck. CM

Fairlaneman

Amen Cacheman.

Good Honest People.

Loki

Thanks cacheman