The item pictured is an example of the actual item being sold. <-- FollowUp
ClarkOfKent
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ClarkOfKent
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Russ, NCNE
But, that's just me.
Clark
Russ, NCNE
Aw heck... I'd probably just get sniped, anyway....
Clark
I emailed the seller asking about the set
my mail to him,
The reason I ask is that the Kennedy half in the picture is an accented hair. Worth a little more than a regular Kennedy half of the same year. Are you saying that all the sets you have are accented hair. I would be happy to bid but I am not sure as to which set I would be bidding.
Thanks for your timely response and effort.
Patrick
and he wrote back,
we looked at the coin set for sale and it's the Same as the picture shown. also we do have a refund policy of 14 days But we don't refund the shipping fees. that would be your cost both ways. hope this helps.
If it's not the same I'll NEG him as a deceptive seller.
I got to damn many pos transactions anyway.
Blaze - Yellow male b 3/17/93
Onyx - Black male b 3/7/99
Duchess - Yellow female mix b 3/12/02 rescued 9/18/02
Rifle - Yellow male mix b 12/1/02 rescued 8/8/03
Diamond - Black female b 5/3/05 adopted 8/3/05
First Cam-slam - 9/21/04
My eBay
New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.
I don't know how to tell the difference either.
Is there an easy identifier?
New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.
Russ, NCNE
Blaze - Yellow male b 3/17/93
Onyx - Black male b 3/7/99
Duchess - Yellow female mix b 3/12/02 rescued 9/18/02
Rifle - Yellow male mix b 12/1/02 rescued 8/8/03
Diamond - Black female b 5/3/05 adopted 8/3/05
First Cam-slam - 9/21/04
My eBay
<< <i>we looked at the coin set for sale and it's the Same as the picture shown >>
And then, when you receive a non-AH set they'll claim that what they meant by "the Same" was that there were five 1964 coins in the set. Sorry, I just can't give them the benefit of the doubt.
Russ,
I thought that picture looked familiar, but I couldn't find another one of their 64 proof set auctions (well, I didn't really look very hard).
Clark
If though it is not I will be leaving a Neg.It would be a first for me and I hope it is not necessary.
I think you must be referring to a different auction than the one I linked to in this thread. They seem to run the same auction every few days, so you probably won an earlier one.
Everyone,
Anyway... I thought I'd invest a few dollars as an experiment, just to find out for sure. I emailed the seller, asking this:
<< <i>Your auction states, "The item pictured is an example of the actual item being sold." Does this mean the item being sold will be of the same variety as the item pictured? >>
Notice I inquired about the "variety", without mentioning the AH. Since their name is "gatewestcoin", I'm assuming they deal in coins and should know what the term "variety" means.
Their response:
<< <i>Yes it will we might have a few of the same item for listing reason we use 1 photo. >>
I'm not trying to set the seller up, and I have no intention of negging them if I don't receive an AH set. I just HAD to find out! If I don't get an AH set I'll just mark it up to experience. I just hope it's a really nice set, regardless, because I paid WAY to much for a regular proof set. If it's not AH, I'll just email the seller and let them know it's not nice to try to fool people like that. I doubt if I'll even return it... not worth the hassle, I knew what I was getting into.
I'll let y'all know how it turns out.
Clark
I didn't get an accented hair but the Kennedy I got in the set will be graded by NGC next week.The coin is as deep Cameo as any I have seen.I set it beside my PCGS graded Deep Cameo and I was thinking that this guy didn't know what he had.The strike is at least as good as My PCGS graded pr69.
I hope you are as lucky.
After I made my last post, I remembered you posting about that cameo you received and went back and read the thread.
I sure hope I do get lucky! Any chance of you posting a pic of yours?
Clark
I still have 4 free submissions and to tell the truith I don't want to take a chance at them not wanting to update the pop reports.
I got a normal, average set. I guess they don't know what "same variety" means. I was just reminded of this auction, because I noticed they're still using the same picture with the Accented Hair.
If not an accented hair Kennedy, then I too consider the dealers' tactic to be deceiving.
What better way to get significantly higher bids on common '64 proof sets.
I'll post when set arrives.
As far as his title goes, "example of the actual item". Who are they kidding? I guess, ME!!!
I specifically asked the seller if the set for sale was of the same "variety" as the one shown, and was told that it was. I don't think the fact that they show an AH is a coincidence at all. Sure, they state that,
<< <i>The item pictured is an example of the actual item being sold. >>
, but I'm not convinced that when I asked about the "variety" that they didn't know exactly what I was talking about. Though they can justify their auction by the disclaimer, I think their email response to me was downright deceitful.
"Fool me once, shame on you", "Fool me twice, shame on me".
Adios Gatewest!
<< <i>Adios Gatewest! >>
Agreed!
If the picture had been a non-AH half set I would not have bid, or I would have bid half of what I did.
I have no doubt that by "Example" they mean you will get a 1964 proof set. I also have no doubt that a coin dealer who has in excess of 36,000 eBay transactions knows what the term "variety" means, and is most likely aware of the difference between an AH and a non-AH. If they took it to mean the same year, or that it would be a proof set, then I still don't want to do further business with them... because they can't be trusted to know what they're talking about.
If you read one of my posts earlier in this thread, you'd know that I, and a couple of other forum members considered this an inexpensive experiment to see what we would receive.
<< <i>I'm not trying to set the seller up, and I have no intention of negging them if I don't receive an AH set. I just HAD to find out! If I don't get an AH set I'll just mark it up to experience. I just hope it's a really nice set, regardless, because I paid WAY to much for a regular proof set. If it's not AH, I'll just email the seller and let them know it's not nice to try to fool people like that. I doubt if I'll even return it... not worth the hassle, I knew what I was getting into. >>
Nobody got negged. I didn't return it, and I didn't email the seller. NO SELLER WAS HARMED IN THE POSTING OF THIS THREAD.
And, hopefully, we may have saved someone else from overbidding on what they thought was an AH set.
"Senorita HepKitty"
"I want a real cool Kitty from Hepcat City, to stay in step with me" - Bill Carter
Pr67 cam.
I thought it would go Deep but I guess I was wrong.
I will be contacting NGC on this.As well as a Pr 69 that should be cam.AND the more I look at MY PR67 FREAKIN "STAR"1959 FRANKLIN THE MORE I WANT TO SCREAM!!!!!
But I digress.
Even so,I think I am alright with the deal with the set I recieved from Gateswest.
I just received my set, and it too was a regular set, but it is high quality and non-cameo.
The Kennedy half is brilliant and would easily go PF68, possibly 69 though I haven't looked at it that close.
I never intended on negging the seller, or sending the set back, but I do beleive the seller has knowlege enough to know the difference between an accented hair Kennedy and the garden variety, and by showing the accented hair variety he is sure to get substantially higher bids on an otherwise common proof set.