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Coin FinderCoin Finder Posts: 7,162 ✭✭✭✭✭
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what gen slab is this.

Kinda neat, transistional coin in transitional slab!!

Tbig

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  • Dog97Dog97 Posts: 7,874 ✭✭✭
    I'll let Conder101 attribute it since you posted this thread to him but that was one of the tougher PCGS slabs to find as a Sample Slab.
    Change that we can believe in is that change which is 90% silver.
  • Cam40Cam40 Posts: 8,146 ✭
    It looks like a real PCGS slab,but not one I,ve ever seen.
    Maybe its a, short-lived, type of slab design they were working on not long ago.?
    Late 90s or later?I,m guessing....image
  • Cam40Cam40 Posts: 8,146 ✭
    There ya go Dog,I was going to say sample slab too.image
  • PlacidPlacid Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭
    The cert number is in the database.
  • Dog97Dog97 Posts: 7,874 ✭✭✭
    Mine is a Sample Slab his is a regular slab.

    Change that we can believe in is that change which is 90% silver.
  • truthtellertruthteller Posts: 1,240 ✭✭
    The coin is in a second generation slab. It used to have a tamper collar about the edge, but someone has removed it. It is not a transition slab.

    TRUTH
  • Coin FinderCoin Finder Posts: 7,162 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I am not sure what Truth means. I would like some more information if anyone knows. The coin by the way is nice. Easy 64 ,however a lot of this date in unc. in out there due to the transistional coinage to the Liberty head Nickel in this year. It was kept.

    I have seen a lot of slabs I have not seen this one. I would like to know if it is a rare plastic holder//

    Thanks to all so far

    Mark
  • Coin FinderCoin Finder Posts: 7,162 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Tamper coller must mean another piece around the slab that has been snaped off. I do not beleive the coin itself or the "inner" slab to be tampered with however.



    Tbig
  • truthtellertruthteller Posts: 1,240 ✭✭
    Tbig,

    After the first generation holder counterfeiting scare, PCGS used the a similar holder for the second generation. They added a softer plastic collar which was separate from the hard plastic slab, but entirely surrounded the hard slab. The collar could be cut or snapped off, with the slab remaining undamaged. In order to crack out the coin, the slab then was cracked much like a first generation holder. This holder lasted about 8 months. The third generation holder is much like the one you see today, but with differing labels.

    TRUTH
  • Coin FinderCoin Finder Posts: 7,162 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks TT!!!

    I will amend my earlier statement to say that this is a transistional/short lived year coin in a short lived slab.

    Mark
  • Conder101Conder101 Posts: 10,536 ✭
    Sorry I've been gone for most of the weekend. Truthteller has it mostly right, I think he may be working from some of my old early information. He is right this is the inner slab that has had the outer ring collar broken off but it is the third generation holder not the second. The second generation holder also had the smae slab within a collar construction but it had a plain green tinted label. The tinting came from thousands of tiny green dots that are only visible under magnification while this third generation holder has much larger dots that make up a doilie pattern on the label. Some of the dots are left out of the patterns to create the repeating PCGS seen in the underprinting. The second and third generatio slabs were produced from Sept thru Dec of 1989. The second generation holder seems to appear about three times as often as the this third generation holder So I have estimated that the second generation holder was used Sept, Oct and Nov while the third generation was Dec only. (This would mean about 30 to 40 thousand of these were produced.) In Jan 1990 the fourth generation holder with the green label that tends to fade and change color came out. This slab is scarce. I would guess between 1,200 and 1,500 may still be in existance. If you are lucky you may be ablew to find one at a large show. As Dog said, the sample slab version of this is a very scarce, possibly rare item. Normally sample slabs were made for distirution at large shows. If this style was only made in Dec of 89 what show would they be made for? FUN 1990 comes to mind but by then they had changed the slab design again, and I can't see them handing out old slabs of a discontinued style. It may be possible that some were made for that reason but scrapped when they changed the design and only a few got out. Dog's specimen is the only one I have ever seen.

    I've often wondered why I have never seen either a second or third generation holder removed from the outer ring, well now I have.
  • MarkMark Posts: 3,536 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Conder:

    When are you going to publish your work in a book form??? I want to be able to give money to you in exchange for this book!!!!!!

    Mark
    Mark


  • orevilleoreville Posts: 11,954 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yeah!

    I want an autograophed copy!
    A Collectors Universe poster since 1997!
  • FlashFlash Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭
    I saw a coin in one of those slabs just yesterday at the show in Buena Park, CA. I've seen them before, but they're few and far between.
    Matt

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