1970 Kellogg's PSA 10 1968 Topps PSA 10
Stump
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Well my invoice just popped, did ok on the kellogg's and my 68 topps
3-10's Wynn 1-1 Stottlemeyer 1-4 Perry 1-3
29-9's
8-8's
1-5 I dont know what happened
Crossovers 1968 Topps
SGC-96 Byron Browne PSA 10 1-1
SGC-96 Orioles Rookies PSA 10 1-3
BVG 9.0 Ken Boyer PSA 9 1-1
BVG 8.5 Andy Kosco PSA 9 1-6
BVG 8.5 Ricardo Joseph PSA 9 1-4
Sorry about the duel thread but I was kind of excited.
Dave Jacobs
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I will pay $1 less than Gemmint and $2 less than Dav for any of your Kellogg 10s...
CU turns its lonely eyes to you
What's the you say, Mrs Robinson
Vargha bucks have left and gone away?
hey hey hey
hey hey hey
Will pay top dollar for the "toy cannon"--Wynn in psa 10.
CU turns its lonely eyes to you
What's the you say, Mrs Robinson
Vargha bucks have left and gone away?
hey hey hey
hey hey hey
Great job on both sets - especially the '68s! The Browne is a tough card even in 8.
Dan
Usually I outbid gemmint by more than $1 for pop 1 psa 10s but at least you have it directionally right that my bid will be higher.
Stump,
I will also make you an offer for all 3 if this is the way you prefer to sell them. E-mail me.
Davalillo
It should be a classic..
Down goes _____________! Down goes____________!
Who will it be..... My money says that Davallio throws the KO punch to gemmintman within 3 months.
Loves me some shiny!
thebobs-I broke out the cards myself. The SGC's are easy. A small screwdriver in the top end on each side. Pry up easy and the seal will break. The BVG was a little tougher. I went through some lesser desirable cards to try and figure a way. Iended up taking a sharp drill bit and drilled a hole in each upper end slowly till the seal brake. If you go slow enough the drill will pull the two slabs apart for you. Just make sure it is a sharp drill and you drill slow.
Dan- thanks I still have over fifty SCG-96 high numbers in 68 to send. I will probably send them now they are just as nice as the two I sent.
Jim and Bill- I will give both of you a shot at the Wynn if I decide to let it go. My first thought is to let it go. I will never try to get to the gemmintmans set and will be satisfied to just finish in nine or better.
Dave Jacobs
Perhaps someone here would like to take you up on your wager.
Remember the cards have to exist in 10 before I can buy them. Also remember that many are pop 1(owned by gemmint) psa 10s. There are also pop two cards where the evil Zardoz owns the other one--Zardoz may even own certain of the pop ones. So far I have not been able so soften him up with offers of liquor and burgers yet but another trip to Houston is coming soon and I don't give up easily. So I am reduced to buying from others which most are willing to do as they are rooting for me to knock off these guys and buying on ebay which I am also successful at as I will outbid gemmint. It will take some time but there will be a new world order.
Davalillo
did you win them in an auction or did you buy them in person? Also I know your really into the 1968 Topps Set
but if you were maybe interested in selling your two 10's I would must definitely would be interested in buying
them from you also I have some 1968 Topps PSA 9's that I would be willing to trade to so feel free to email me
if you maybe interested.
Davalillo,
For what it's worth........I rooting for you.
These are the kinds of competitions that we need in card collecting.
Buyer wins, seller wins.
Currently collecting.....your guess is as good as mine.
Find me a couple psa 10s I don't have and I will put you on the Board of Directors of this set after we fire Gemmint and Zardoz as the leaders.
Vic D
Vic, you must first register your set before you can have a vote on the Kellogg's Kouncil.
Thank you, Kellogg's Klub
That's comparable to being on the Board of Directors of Enron IMHO
..........then again, perhaps Enron would have less of a stigma attached as you go through life.
Gemmint, I tell you what--I will register my set if you show the grades of your individual cards. Every set that I have on the registry is public--why be so secretive?
Davalillo
<< <i>I don't know--I think we have got enough collectors so far on the various threads who have voiced their opinion that this is a modern set that there is enough for a Board of Directors. >>
Vic, what the heck are you talking about? The VAST majority of the '70 Kellogg's Kollectors of this set do not agree with you. The few people who agree with you are not kollectors of this VINTAGE set and know not what they say, and PSA certainly doesn't agree with you.
<< <i>Gemmint, I tell you what--I will register my set if you show the grades of your individual cards >>
Vic, just check the 10's on the Population Report and my GPA. That should give you a very good idea where I stand
Bighurt- I got the SGC-96 on ebay. The price I paid was low for these cards in a nine. I expected these to be nines although I knew they would be strong nines I had no idea they would come back tens. I still have over 50 SGC-96 that I have not unslabbed. I will be sending them in shortly. I got spooked some time back when EJGURU has some bad luck with crossovers so I only sent in the two that I needed for my set. The others I have will be upgrades with the exception of the 596 Smith card which is a tough card in 68. I think the set your building is awesome I wish I had the patience to wait for the hioghest grades but I really wanted to finish my set. I need 10 cards now and I have a line on all but one. I hope to finish it in the next 60 days. Thanks for the offer on the 68's but they are going in my set. I need all the help I can get the three sets above are great sets with the number one set being unbelievable. I know on numerous occasions Revere's Finest Set has been spoken about on these threads. I dont know if itis possible to catch him but it is sure going to fun trying.
Dave Jacobs(stump)
It would be interesting to have a PSA rep come on this forum and give us the verdict of what PSA considers vintage.
I would not consider PSA to be the ultimate authority on what constitutes a vintage set. I believe if you polled the top ten vintage sportscard collectors in the hobby, not one would would consider 1970 Kelloggs to be a vintage set.
Davalillo
I'm siding with Davalillo on this one. Just because PSA considers pre-1974 to be vintage, it does not necessarily mean it is so. The reason PSA did this was for the different pricing structures for its services. And, not knowing precisely why PSA made the cutoff, I would only say this: 1973 was the last year in which Topps released its baseball cards in series. That, I believe, is probably why there was the cutoff at that point.
Stump -- great crossovers. I hope the others go as successful for you -- but I would at least warn you to pre-screen if you are expecting to get PSA 10's. Your results are the exception rather than the rule, and the only way to get it to continue to work for you is exceptional pre-screening on your part.
Davalillo -- You have brought up an interesting point that I would like to inquire about. Who would you consider the top ten sportcard collectors to be? I can name about five off the top of my head that I am sure are on that list. Are any of them private? (e.g., not really disclosed to the public as being major sportscard collectors?) I am very curious to learn your opinions on that, as you deal with many of those individuals more than anyone else on these boards.
MS
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The Top 10 registrants of the 1970 Kellogg's set.
QED
I will post separately on this as it seems like an interesting topic.
Davalillo
Please be sure to spell my name correctly.
Thank You
Paul
It would probably be interesting to have a small section as to "Noted Collectors of the Past" who have probably supplied many of the cards in your and in other collections. I'm thinking of names like David Hall, Copeland, and a few others come to mind....
I was about ready to send and had second thoughts--maybe certain individuals who don't have their cards and sets posted on the registry would not appreciate being "outed" so I will send this to you instead via personal e-mail.
Davalillo(Jim)
I appreciate it.
As for public collectors, I think names like Charlie Merkle, Marshall Fogel, Don Louscious, Davalillo, perhaps Ron Hobbs and a few other come to mind.
I don't know enough about the breadth of either Olbermann's or Candiotti's collections to speak as to their rank.
I had John Branca 4th after Charlie, Marshall and Don. I also had Ron Hobbs on my 5th-12th list. I did not have Keith Obermann but did have Candiotti and one other current major leaguer on.
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John
I am not an expert in anything card related. I do remember hearing/reading somewhere that card collecting became big business in the early mid 1980's, and that is what many deemed to be the "cutoff" point for collecting for fun vs. investing. I have not looked into this as some of you have/will, but I think it is very safe to say that (barring print issues, etc), 1980 and up will have more 9's and 10's than 1979 and less will.
I consider what you are saying, and you and others have provided keen insight to this and other areas. I would put you in the top 10 collectors based on this knowledge, and also with what you own. Every one is going to have their own valued opinion on this topic.
I know what your vote is, but I would like to see a poll on this topic.
The question could be "What is considered the Vintage cutoff?" or something like that, and the answers would be in years, not in sets.
I do not know how to create a forum poll, but I have seen them.
By the way, I consider guys like you, zardoz, gemmint, marc, and the like to be experts. That is me though, I am a limited collector on a budget, so I cannot compete with the big timers on a colection basis.
This is a good topic!
Not telling....but every set I am collecting is on the registry(except 1970 Kellogg)...I do have a couple hundred non graded sets hanging around though as well as a few hundred miscellaneous cards that are not in sets I am collecting.
Davalillo
mikeschmidt- thanks for the advice it sounds solid to me. I trynto prescreen everything I do with PSA but you just never know what grade you are going to get. I knew the tens were nines at least and I knew they were strong nines. The others I have are just as nice and I will send as soon as I can take the time to unslab. You have to be very careful in this as you can drive a tool right into the card.
vintage- I am going to be polititically correct here when I say everyone has their own opinion on this. I think if you polled 50 guys you would probably get many differant views on when it starts. It depends on the perception of the individual. I guess thats why this is USA and not communist china.
Just my USA right to a voice.
Dave Jacobs
I hate to name drop in a public forum and he may not appreciate it but he has been a big time buyer of HOF rookie cards in psa 9 or 10. If you e mail me at home I will tell you. I'm sure others know this info.
Davalillo
Silly me to forget John Branca. Though his 1951 Bowman set is exemplary -- other key purchases of his, including the rare/elusive/controversial 1912 E300 Plow's set is much more intriguing. Plus he has many other key set in top grade.
And who can forget Brian Seigel. He is one of the true gentlemen of the hobby. His run of pre-war PSA 8 cards is simply amazing -- and it is not limited to the T-206 Hall of Famers he has listed on the Registry. His memorabilia collection is top notch, as well.
Neal-
Thanks for your kind words to me. I am way too young and inexperienced in this hobby to be considered an expert. I send you three Mike Schmidt cards today (1987 Donruss Opening Day PSA 9, 1983 [VINTAGE] Kelloggs PSA 9, and the silly 1986 Keller's Butter SGC 88). When you get them, send me whatever they are worth to you.
Thanks to all that I have learned from!
Marc
Schmidty on the other hand definitely makes my Top Ten Suck Up List
E
Used to working on HOF SS Baseballs--Now just '67 Sox Stickers and anything Boston related.