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1970 Kellogg's PSA 10 1968 Topps PSA 10



Well my invoice just popped, did ok on the kellogg's and my 68 topps

3-10's Wynn 1-1 Stottlemeyer 1-4 Perry 1-3
29-9's
8-8's
1-5 I dont know what happened

Crossovers 1968 Topps
SGC-96 Byron Browne PSA 10 1-1
SGC-96 Orioles Rookies PSA 10 1-3
BVG 9.0 Ken Boyer PSA 9 1-1
BVG 8.5 Andy Kosco PSA 9 1-6
BVG 8.5 Ricardo Joseph PSA 9 1-4

Sorry about the duel thread but I was kind of excited.

Dave Jacobs
Visit my site @ www.djjscards.com

Comments

  • theBobstheBobs Posts: 1,136 ✭✭
    very nicely done. did you breakout the cards or send them to psa in the original slabs?

    I will pay $1 less than Gemmint and $2 less than Dav for any of your Kellogg 10s...
    Where have you gone Dave Vargha
    CU turns its lonely eyes to you
    What's the you say, Mrs Robinson
    Vargha bucks have left and gone away?

    hey hey hey
    hey hey hey
  • DavalilloDavalillo Posts: 1,846 ✭✭
    Stump,

    Will pay top dollar for the "toy cannon"--Wynn in psa 10.
  • Stump, please send me a PM to discuss the Kellogg's 10's.
  • theBobstheBobs Posts: 1,136 ✭✭
    Please remember my efforts to be under-bidder to these two guys. It bears repeating -- I will pay $1 less than Gemmint and $2 less than Dav for any of your Kellogg 10s...
    Where have you gone Dave Vargha
    CU turns its lonely eyes to you
    What's the you say, Mrs Robinson
    Vargha bucks have left and gone away?

    hey hey hey
    hey hey hey
  • dudedude Posts: 1,454 ✭✭
    Dave,

    Great job on both sets - especially the '68s! The Browne is a tough card even in 8.

    Dan
  • DavalilloDavalillo Posts: 1,846 ✭✭
    theBobs,

    Usually I outbid gemmint by more than $1 for pop 1 psa 10s but at least you have it directionally right that my bid will be higher.

    Stump,

    I will also make you an offer for all 3 if this is the way you prefer to sell them. E-mail me.

    Davalillo
  • Vic is a funny guy. Don't believe everything he says image.
  • carew4mecarew4me Posts: 3,473 ✭✭✭✭
    This has all the makings of a heavy weight bout...


    It should be a classic..


    Down goes _____________! Down goes____________!


    Who will it be..... My money says that Davallio throws the KO punch to gemmintman within 3 months.

    Loves me some shiny!


  • thebobs-I broke out the cards myself. The SGC's are easy. A small screwdriver in the top end on each side. Pry up easy and the seal will break. The BVG was a little tougher. I went through some lesser desirable cards to try and figure a way. Iended up taking a sharp drill bit and drilled a hole in each upper end slowly till the seal brake. If you go slow enough the drill will pull the two slabs apart for you. Just make sure it is a sharp drill and you drill slow.

    Dan- thanks I still have over fifty SCG-96 high numbers in 68 to send. I will probably send them now they are just as nice as the two I sent.

    Jim and Bill- I will give both of you a shot at the Wynn if I decide to let it go. My first thought is to let it go. I will never try to get to the gemmintmans set and will be satisfied to just finish in nine or better.

    Dave Jacobs
    Visit my site @ www.djjscards.com
  • Carew4me, I think that "Vic Davalillo" fits perfectly in your blank spaces.

    Perhaps someone here would like to take you up on your wager.
  • Thanks Stump image.
  • DavalilloDavalillo Posts: 1,846 ✭✭
    carew4me,

    Remember the cards have to exist in 10 before I can buy them. Also remember that many are pop 1(owned by gemmint) psa 10s. There are also pop two cards where the evil Zardoz owns the other one--Zardoz may even own certain of the pop ones. So far I have not been able so soften him up with offers of liquor and burgers yet but another trip to Houston is coming soon and I don't give up easily. So I am reduced to buying from others which most are willing to do as they are rooting for me to knock off these guys and buying on ebay which I am also successful at as I will outbid gemmint. It will take some time but there will be a new world order.

    Davalillo
  • bighurt2000bighurt2000 Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭
    Dave SGC-96 to PSA 10's that's great how did you find the SGC-96 Byron Browne and SGC-96 Orioles Rookies
    did you win them in an auction or did you buy them in person? Also I know your really into the 1968 Topps Set
    but if you were maybe interested in selling your two 10's I would must definitely would be interested in buying
    them from you also I have some 1968 Topps PSA 9's that I would be willing to trade to so feel free to email me
    if you maybe interested.
  • PlayBallPlayBall Posts: 463 ✭✭✭

    Davalillo,

    For what it's worth........I rooting for you.

    These are the kinds of competitions that we need in card collecting.

    Buyer wins, seller wins.
    Bernie Carlen



    Currently collecting.....your guess is as good as mine.
  • DavalilloDavalillo Posts: 1,846 ✭✭
    Thanks Play Ball,

    Find me a couple psa 10s I don't have and I will put you on the Board of Directors of this set after we fire Gemmint and Zardoz as the leaders.

    Vic D
  • A message from the Chairman of the Board...

    image
    Vic, you must first register your set before you can have a vote on the Kellogg's Kouncil.

    Thank you, Kellogg's Klub
  • The Board of Directors of the Anti-Vintage Kellogg's Koalition?


    That's comparable to being on the Board of Directors of Enron IMHO

    ..........then again, perhaps Enron would have less of a stigma attached as you go through life.


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  • DavalilloDavalillo Posts: 1,846 ✭✭
    I don't know--I think we have got enough collectors so far on the various threads who have voiced their opinion that this is a modern set that there is enough for a Board of Directors.
    Gemmint, I tell you what--I will register my set if you show the grades of your individual cards. Every set that I have on the registry is public--why be so secretive?

    Davalillo


  • << <i>I don't know--I think we have got enough collectors so far on the various threads who have voiced their opinion that this is a modern set that there is enough for a Board of Directors. >>



    Vic, what the heck are you talking about? The VAST majority of the '70 Kellogg's Kollectors of this set do not agree with you. The few people who agree with you are not kollectors of this VINTAGE set and know not what they say, and PSA certainly doesn't agree with you.





    << <i>Gemmint, I tell you what--I will register my set if you show the grades of your individual cards >>



    Vic, just check the 10's on the Population Report and my GPA. That should give you a very good idea where I stand image. Ok, now you can register your set.


  • Bighurt- I got the SGC-96 on ebay. The price I paid was low for these cards in a nine. I expected these to be nines although I knew they would be strong nines I had no idea they would come back tens. I still have over 50 SGC-96 that I have not unslabbed. I will be sending them in shortly. I got spooked some time back when EJGURU has some bad luck with crossovers so I only sent in the two that I needed for my set. The others I have will be upgrades with the exception of the 596 Smith card which is a tough card in 68. I think the set your building is awesome I wish I had the patience to wait for the hioghest grades but I really wanted to finish my set. I need 10 cards now and I have a line on all but one. I hope to finish it in the next 60 days. Thanks for the offer on the 68's but they are going in my set. I need all the help I can get the three sets above are great sets with the number one set being unbelievable. I know on numerous occasions Revere's Finest Set has been spoken about on these threads. I dont know if itis possible to catch him but it is sure going to fun trying.

    Dave Jacobs(stump)
    Visit my site @ www.djjscards.com
  • 1420sports1420sports Posts: 3,473 ✭✭✭
    davalillo - PSA even classifies VINTAGE as 1974 and prior. 1970 is prior to 1974, so the 1970 Kelloggs set is considered by PSA as a vintage set. This can be seen on any invoice.

    It would be interesting to have a PSA rep come on this forum and give us the verdict of what PSA considers vintage.

    collecting various PSA and SGC cards
  • DavalilloDavalillo Posts: 1,846 ✭✭
    1420 Sports,

    I would not consider PSA to be the ultimate authority on what constitutes a vintage set. I believe if you polled the top ten vintage sportscard collectors in the hobby, not one would would consider 1970 Kelloggs to be a vintage set.

    Davalillo
  • mikeschmidtmikeschmidt Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭
    Neal-

    I'm siding with Davalillo on this one. Just because PSA considers pre-1974 to be vintage, it does not necessarily mean it is so. The reason PSA did this was for the different pricing structures for its services. And, not knowing precisely why PSA made the cutoff, I would only say this: 1973 was the last year in which Topps released its baseball cards in series. That, I believe, is probably why there was the cutoff at that point.

    Stump -- great crossovers. I hope the others go as successful for you -- but I would at least warn you to pre-screen if you are expecting to get PSA 10's. Your results are the exception rather than the rule, and the only way to get it to continue to work for you is exceptional pre-screening on your part.

    Davalillo -- You have brought up an interesting point that I would like to inquire about. Who would you consider the top ten sportcard collectors to be? I can name about five off the top of my head that I am sure are on that list. Are any of them private? (e.g., not really disclosed to the public as being major sportscard collectors?) I am very curious to learn your opinions on that, as you deal with many of those individuals more than anyone else on these boards.

    MS
    I am actively buying MIKE SCHMIDT gem mint baseball cards. Also looking for any 19th century cabinets of Philadephia Nationals. Please PM with additional details.
  • Definition of the Top 10 Collectors in The Hobby


    ***************************


    The Top 10 registrants of the 1970 Kellogg's set.



    QED
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  • DavalilloDavalillo Posts: 1,846 ✭✭
    MikeSchmidt,

    I will post separately on this as it seems like an interesting topic.

    Davalillo
  • Davalillo


    Please be sure to spell my name correctly.

    Thank You

    Paul
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  • 19541954 Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭
    Make sure you add Jimmy Rak to that list.
    Looking for high grade rookie cards and unopened boxes/cases
  • mikeschmidtmikeschmidt Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭
    Davalillo-

    It would probably be interesting to have a small section as to "Noted Collectors of the Past" who have probably supplied many of the cards in your and in other collections. I'm thinking of names like David Hall, Copeland, and a few others come to mind....
    I am actively buying MIKE SCHMIDT gem mint baseball cards. Also looking for any 19th century cabinets of Philadephia Nationals. Please PM with additional details.
  • DavalilloDavalillo Posts: 1,846 ✭✭
    Marc,

    I was about ready to send and had second thoughts--maybe certain individuals who don't have their cards and sets posted on the registry would not appreciate being "outed" so I will send this to you instead via personal e-mail.

    Davalillo(Jim)
  • mikeschmidtmikeschmidt Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭
    Jim:

    I appreciate it.

    As for public collectors, I think names like Charlie Merkle, Marshall Fogel, Don Louscious, Davalillo, perhaps Ron Hobbs and a few other come to mind.

    I don't know enough about the breadth of either Olbermann's or Candiotti's collections to speak as to their rank.
    I am actively buying MIKE SCHMIDT gem mint baseball cards. Also looking for any 19th century cabinets of Philadephia Nationals. Please PM with additional details.
  • DavalilloDavalillo Posts: 1,846 ✭✭
    Marc,

    I had John Branca 4th after Charlie, Marshall and Don. I also had Ron Hobbs on my 5th-12th list. I did not have Keith Obermann but did have Candiotti and one other current major leaguer on.
  • qualitycardsqualitycards Posts: 2,811 ✭✭✭
    DAVALILLO - Fess Up! Where did you rank yourself? image ...jay
  • BasiloneBasilone Posts: 2,492 ✭✭
    Anyway we could get the name of the current major leaguer out of you Davalillo?

    John
  • 1420sports1420sports Posts: 3,473 ✭✭✭
    davalillo - I am not saying that PSA is the end all, be all authority. They are an authority, in my opinion, and can help in this determination.

    I am not an expert in anything card related. I do remember hearing/reading somewhere that card collecting became big business in the early mid 1980's, and that is what many deemed to be the "cutoff" point for collecting for fun vs. investing. I have not looked into this as some of you have/will, but I think it is very safe to say that (barring print issues, etc), 1980 and up will have more 9's and 10's than 1979 and less will.

    I consider what you are saying, and you and others have provided keen insight to this and other areas. I would put you in the top 10 collectors based on this knowledge, and also with what you own. Every one is going to have their own valued opinion on this topic.

    I know what your vote is, but I would like to see a poll on this topic.

    The question could be "What is considered the Vintage cutoff?" or something like that, and the answers would be in years, not in sets.

    I do not know how to create a forum poll, but I have seen them.

    By the way, I consider guys like you, zardoz, gemmint, marc, and the like to be experts. That is me though, I am a limited collector on a budget, so I cannot compete with the big timers on a colection basis.

    This is a good topic!
    collecting various PSA and SGC cards
  • DavalilloDavalillo Posts: 1,846 ✭✭
    Jay,

    Not telling....but every set I am collecting is on the registry(except 1970 Kellogg)...I do have a couple hundred non graded sets hanging around though as well as a few hundred miscellaneous cards that are not in sets I am collecting.

    Davalillo


  • mikeschmidt- thanks for the advice it sounds solid to me. I trynto prescreen everything I do with PSA but you just never know what grade you are going to get. I knew the tens were nines at least and I knew they were strong nines. The others I have are just as nice and I will send as soon as I can take the time to unslab. You have to be very careful in this as you can drive a tool right into the card.

    vintage- I am going to be polititically correct here when I say everyone has their own opinion on this. I think if you polled 50 guys you would probably get many differant views on when it starts. It depends on the perception of the individual. I guess thats why this is USA and not communist china.

    Just my USA right to a voice.

    Dave Jacobs
    Visit my site @ www.djjscards.com
  • DavalilloDavalillo Posts: 1,846 ✭✭
    John,

    I hate to name drop in a public forum and he may not appreciate it but he has been a big time buyer of HOF rookie cards in psa 9 or 10. If you e mail me at home I will tell you. I'm sure others know this info.

    Davalillo
  • mikeschmidtmikeschmidt Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭
    Davalillo-

    Silly me to forget John Branca. Though his 1951 Bowman set is exemplary -- other key purchases of his, including the rare/elusive/controversial 1912 E300 Plow's set is much more intriguing. Plus he has many other key set in top grade.

    And who can forget Brian Seigel. He is one of the true gentlemen of the hobby. His run of pre-war PSA 8 cards is simply amazing -- and it is not limited to the T-206 Hall of Famers he has listed on the Registry. His memorabilia collection is top notch, as well.


    Neal-

    Thanks for your kind words to me. I am way too young and inexperienced in this hobby to be considered an expert. I send you three Mike Schmidt cards today (1987 Donruss Opening Day PSA 9, 1983 [VINTAGE] Kelloggs PSA 9, and the silly 1986 Keller's Butter SGC 88). When you get them, send me whatever they are worth to you.


    Thanks to all that I have learned from!

    Marc
    I am actively buying MIKE SCHMIDT gem mint baseball cards. Also looking for any 19th century cabinets of Philadephia Nationals. Please PM with additional details.
  • Well I don't know where Vic goes on the all time list, but as soon as he registers his VINTAGE '70 Kellogg's set he'll definitely be up there in my opinion.

    Schmidty on the other hand definitely makes my Top Ten Suck Up List image.
  • He would have made my top five list but he acknowledged that the 83K card was VINTAGE thereby picking up a couple of bonus points.

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  • ejguruejguru Posts: 618 ✭✭✭
    Congrats DAVE!! Maybe based on your results, I won't give up on SGC--and may even give BVG a try in the crossover game. image Fifty SGC 96's?!?!?!!? I hope your luck continues. Be noted that at least one of my three (the one that became a 7) I can understand--rough cut. The other 2 that became 8's will have to be resubmitted next special.

    E
    "...life is but a dream."

    Used to working on HOF SS Baseballs--Now just '67 Sox Stickers and anything Boston related.
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