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LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
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Latest update on submissions.

I was 0/8 on NGC crossovers to PCGS last month and more recently (yesterday) 0/5 on upgrades. Some of the 65R's I sent are nicer than the 66R's in my collection.

Are the odds improved by first cracking them out or "cross at any grade"?? What been your experience with the later ie: preservation of the original grade???

The only upgrade was a monster 1858/7 63 upgraded to 64 - anyone want to buy my (now spare) PCGS 63?? It's a nice photosealed example.
"My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose.

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  • keithdagenkeithdagen Posts: 2,025 ✭
    Many people feel that crossovers have a better chance when cracking out the coin first. They believe that PCGS has an agenda that will intentionally makes it hard for NGC coins to cross.
    Keith ™

  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,148 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I wonder if it's like asking the founders of McDonalds to 'taste test' a" Whopper" and agree it is as tasty or even better than a BigMac?

    I don't know.
    It seems I must agree there has to be some human emotional attachment into the idea of "allowing" an "NGC" coin into a PCGS holder at the same or better grade.

    Too bad you can't blindfold the Graders. I guess that would defeat the purpose. . .

    peacockcoins

  • DAMDAM Posts: 2,410 ✭✭
    Braddick, that's funny! image I can see Mickey Dees saying the Whopper is as good as their Big Mac. image ROFLMAO!!!!!

    I tried to cross an NGC MS66RD two cent piece and it came back MS65RD. Sent it back in, in the PCGS holder, and it upgraded to MS66RD. What's the deal with that? image

    I recently sent in two ANACS certified DMPL Morgans. Both came back DMPL, but a grade lower. Now that they're in PCGS holders I'm going to send them in again and see what happens. I'll post it when I get them back (if I ever get around to submitting them) image

    In both examples, if I had to do it over again, I would have broken them out and sent them in raw. If you're doubtful a coin will cross at the same grade, leave it in the holder. At least you still have it in a slab if it's rejected.
    Dan
  • BNEBNE Posts: 772 ✭
    This is a really tricky issue, and one I've given some thought to. I think one hinders their chance of a cross-over by designating a minimum grade. The graders will not crack it out unless they are certain, looking at the coin in the holder, that they are willing to give it the same grade in a PCGS slab. Sometimes, however, the slab is scratched or occluded, and makes the coin look worse than it is. With a straight cross, the graders will never really "see" the coin.

    Last month, I submitted a 1939 NGC PR68 Jefferson to PCGS twice. The first time, I had a minimum grade of PR68, and it did not cross. Knowing that the coin under the plastic was worthy of the grade, I bit the bullet and resubmitted with a cross at any grade, and it went PR68 (5/0).

    It looks a lot nicer in its new holder, and taught me a few lessons. I think one must share the risk to have a successful cross-over.

    P.S. I don't like cracking coins out myself. Frankly, I'd rather have a coin not cross than have me drop it, or fingerprint it trying to package it up. I'd never forgive myself. I like to leave the slab-cracking to the professionals.

    I know others have different opinions, but this one is mine.
    "The essence of sleight of hand is distraction and misdirection. If smoeone can be convinced that he has, through his own perspicacity, divined your hidden purposes, he will not look further."

    William S. Burroughs, Cities of the Red Night
  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Good idea - I just hate to send in a $2000 coin and have it come back in a $350 holder! But, your logic makes sense. I'll try it on the 65R's first - not much to lose there.

    Braddick - I've never met a whopper or Big Mac I didn't like....guess that's why I'm on a diet...
    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose.
  • CocoinutCocoinut Posts: 2,512 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've only tried the crackout game once - with an NGC MS64 1934-D quarter. I knew it was a no-brainer 64, and thought it had a shot at 65, so I cracked it out and sent it to PCGS. I figured if I left it in the NGC64 holder, there was no way it would upgrade. It came back as a 64. A 65 would have been nice, but I'd still rather have a PCGS64 than an NGC64.

    Jim
    Countdown to completion of my Mercury Set: 1 coin. My growing Lincoln Set: Finally completed!
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